Obama, in podcast, uses N-word to make point on racism

Obama, in podcast, uses N-word to make point on racism

Obama, in podcast, uses N-word to make point on racism

President Barack Obama speaks about the shooting deaths of nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina, from the Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House in Washington, DC, June 18, 2015. AFP Photo

US President Barack Obama on June 22 ignited a storm of social media debate when he used a racial epithet in an interview posted online that discussed race relations following the recent  killings of nine black churchgoers. 

"It's not just a matter of it not being polite to say 'nigger' in public. That's not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It's not just a matter of overt discrimination," Obama, the first black US president, told Mark Maron, host of the "WTF" podcast, in an hour-long chat. 

The word has a long US history and is almost never used in public remarks, particularly by politicians, and Obama's use of it comes amid a fresh round of soul-searching by many Americans over the country's long struggle with racism. 

White House spokesman Josh Earnest, at a daily briefing with reporters on June 22, said Obama intended to be provocative by using the word and to illustrate a larger point. 

"I would acknowledge that the way the president designed his argument in this scenario is more provocative," Earnest said, making clear that Obama did not regret his word choice. 

He is by no means the first American president to use the word in modern times. But while Obama did so in public, trying to make a point about enduring racism, several of the white men who preceded him in the White House used the term in private and in racially disparaging ways. 

In his 2001 book "Nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word," author Randall Kennedy listed Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson and Harry Truman as frequent offenders. 

Nixon was caught on his own White House tapes referring to blacks as "niggers" and "jigaboos," another racial epithet. 

Though Johnson pushed through landmark civil rights laws, biographer Robert Dallek wrote that Johnson said he nominated well-known jurist Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court, rather than a lesser-known black candidate, because "when I appoint a nigger to the bench, I want everybody to know he's a nigger." 

Truman called Congressman Adam Clayton Powell "that damned nigger preacher," Kennedy wrote. 

Obama used the word multiple times in his pre-presidential autobiography "Dreams from My Father." As president, Obama has been less provocative on race. He said in the interview that the United States has made progress on race in the past 50 years but the legacy of slavery still casts a shadow. 

"Societies don't just overnight completely erase everything that happened two to three hundred years prior," Obama said.