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US committee's vote on 'genocide' marks end of protocols, official says

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Turkey recalled its ambassador to the U.S., Namık Tan, after the panel vote.

Turkey recalled its ambassador to the U.S., Namık Tan, after the panel vote.

The approval of the Armenia “genocide” resolution by a U.S. House committee is perhaps not “the end of the world” but surely is the “end of the historic protocols” signed between Turkey and Armenia, according to a top official.

“No one should expect Turkish Parliament to proceed with the protocols at least until April 24,” a senior foreign ministry official told a limited group of journalists Friday. April 24 is the commemoration day of the alleged killings of Armenians at the hands of the Ottoman Empire in 1915.  Many Armenians would like the U.S. president to use the word “genocide” in the annual written statement to mark the date.

Turkey and Armenia signed two protocols last year to establish diplomatic ties and open the border after decades of hostility between the two neighboring countries. The protocols, however, are yet to be ratified by either parliament. The resolution came at a moment when Turkey and Armenia were engaged in a diplomatic process to resolve problems that are blocking the ratifications.

“Turkey has internal dynamics, too. The Parliament cannot make any step with regard to the protocols. There is a very important reaction,” the official told journalists. However, the hurdles before the reconciliation process are not limited to the House panel’s approval. The lack of any development in the peace talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the disputed Nagorno-Karabahk problem stands as an additional problem for Turkey, which promised its ally Azerbaijan not to proceed with the protocols unless Yerevan withdraws its troops from occupied Azeri lands.

For the Foreign Ministry official, “There was no positive development on this issue to make Turkey hopeful of concluding the reconciliation process with Armenia.” Turkey dispatched two of its top diplomats Friday to Russia, a key country in solving the problem, to ensure Moscow’s full backing and provide further developments, the official said. Feridun Sinirlioğlu, the undersecretary of the Foreign Ministry, and Ünal Çeviköz, his deputy, departed for Moscow on Friday.

“In order not to be misunderstood we should put it straight: It was Turkey who has fully endorsed this process with Armenia since 2005. And we are still committed to it. However, there are so many developments that have slowed down the pace of talks, including the Armenian Constitutional Court’s ruling on the protocols,” he said.

In January, the court approved the protocols’ compatibility with Armenia’s constitution but said they should not violate the principle set by the country’s Declaration of Independence, which refers to Turkey’s eastern provinces as West Armenia and that the “genocide” cannot be disputed.

“We are still seeking a written assurance from Armenia. Everyone is focused only on the opening of the border. What would happen if they would give up establishing the independent commission expected to be tasked with investigating the 1915 incidents?” the diplomat asked. Ankara expects official mediator Switzerland to step in and give written assurance to this end.

The mood between the two neighbors has dramatically changed in the last few months, making the completion of the protocols more difficult.

Messages to Turkey

According to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, some circles in the U.S. administration think the resolution can be used as leverage against Ankara for swift ratification of the protocols. “We know who they are and what they are planning. They should know such an attempt will never be responded to by Turkey,” the diplomat noted.

“They perhaps wanted to give a message to Turkey to urge that, in the case of the failure of the process, they are ready with their sticks in hand.”

The same source also touched on the role of the Israeli lobby during this process. “Our ambassador to Washington met with all prominent representatives of the Israeli lobby. They promised to give support, but when compared to the past, their support was minimal. Perhaps they also wanted to give a message to Turkey to show the damage in ties between Ankara and Tel Aviv,” added the diplomat.

Passage not likely

Though the House panel’s move disturbed Ankara a lot, Turkish diplomats are still hopeful the resolution will not be endorsed by the full House of Representatives. “We are surly going to continue to press administration on this issue. Furthermore, we will do our best to stop the use of that word [genocide] by the U.S. President Barack Obama [in his April 24 statement],” the diplomat noted.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is expected to go to the U.S. in mid-April to attend an international summit on nuclear energy. He could have a bilateral meeting with Obama, diplomats said, though there was not a meeting set between the two leaders.

The only concern for Turkey is the decrease of Obama’s influence over the congressmen before November’s elections. “We think he did not want to spend all his bullets. He obviously saves them for issues he considers more important for him,” the diplomat said.

No sanctions planned

Despite the great disturbance due to the approval of the resolution, the diplomat emphasized that Turkey was not planning to apply sanctions on the United States, such as canceling weapon deals or other economic ties at this stage. “The withdrawal of our ambassador is enough for the moment. If the resolution reaches the full House and is endorsed there, of course we will evaluate the issue and our bilateral ties once again,” the diplomat said.

“Turkish-American relations are interdependent. As they have expectations from us, we also have expectations from them,” added the diplomat.

Turkey and the United States cooperate on many important international issues including the Middle East, Iran’s nuclear row, Afghanistan and pipeline diplomacy.


 

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Guest - Cihan
2010-03-10 08:40:47
  John Fisher, your comments are biased and unfounded..........The duration of Turkish Ermenian issue exeeds Turkey - İsrael issues and has deeper roots.
 

Guest - John Fisher
2010-03-09 07:25:43
  Interesting isn't it? Not long after Turkey has a major fallout in relations with Israel, and the Israelis are throwing hissy fits over the airing of a documentary on Turkish T.V, showing Palestinian children being brutalised by Israeli soldiers..all of a sudden Turkey is being compared with Nazi Germany and the Armenian Genocide resolution is being "pushed" forward in the US. It's a case of the old dirty black frying pan (Israel) trying to paint the kettle(Turkey) as being black with the sins of the past. If any nation on earth is black with the sins of the past it is Israel. Of Jewish ancestry myself, and having studied the writings of their historical prophets, it is quite clear that Israel has had a very black past, with plenty of skeletons in the closet. The inhumane treatment of the disenfranchised Palestinian people, in particular over the past 60 years, is nothing new to the Israelis..they have been doing it for millenniums, to the point that God even had to raise up violent pagan Kings and kingdoms to try to knock some sense into them. None of it worked, until finally the Romans forced them into the great diaspora and merely spread the disease across the globe until they finally realised they could be much more effective as an international power. The fact that Israel has survived this long is not so much because they are such great militarists, but is due in most part to their international powerbase, and in particular America, where they "rule the roost" in almost every sphere of industro-media-politics. It's not difficult for them to pull the right strings and get some kind of anti-Turkey resolution..they do it all the time to their perceived enemies, the sort of vindictive preemptive strike which they are very good at.
 

Guest - Cihan
2010-03-08 12:49:34
  Hitler ' s quotation is mentioned in the '' Ermenian bill ( draft low ) - item 15 '' (Article 15) As displayed in the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Adolf Hitler, on ordering his military commanders to attack Poland without provocation in 1939, dismissed objections by saying “[who], after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?” and thus set the stage for the Holocaust......................................................................................... To refer Adolf Hitler in the resolution (Article 15) is very deceptive. Armenian historian Dr. Robert John, American historian Heath Lowry and Turkish historian Türkkaya Ataöv have proved that this quote is false. That quote was not found in any speech delivered by Hitler or filed in the documents of Nuremberg. The court had filed two versions of Hitler’s speech to army commanders in August 22, 1939, from the German military records. These have the numbers of US-29/786 PS and US-30/1014 PS and none of these files have this quote (by Prof.Dr.Kemal Çiçek )
 

Guest - Awestruck
2010-03-08 07:54:50
  Uh, yeah he did May. Indeed he did. Visit the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. to find out.
 

Guest - Hamasdegh
2010-03-07 20:58:46
  I have been following the exchange of views and comments regarding the passing of the US Committeee's vote on the Armenian Genocide. I have been also reading with great interest the reports and editorials on this topic in the Turkish media. I applaud those in the media who are able to look at the issue dispassionately and place the tragedy of the Armenian Genocide in its real , historical context rather than toe the official line of denial. However, reading these press comments and official declarations , I have come to also conclude that it will take a much greater effort to drive home a simple message. Modern Turkey is caught in the moving sands of history, and cannot overcome the unfavorable world opinion by camouflaging the past acts committed by the Ottoman Empire in a discourse of denials cum justifications. I believe sooner than later modern Turkey will come to realize that no amount of gimmicks, threats and millions of dollars paid annually to commercially minded lobbyists can correct the verdict of history, or drown out the cry for justice of victims whose descendants live with the memory. Some people in modern Turkey forget that the Genocide of Armenians in 1915-1918 was the culmination of persistently violent policies of the Ottoman Empire against Armenians in the second half of the 19th century in the face of Armenian demands for civil rights, equality and justice.To say that the death of 1.5 million Armenians in the deserts of Deir Zor was the result of deportations is a dishonest attempt to obscure the fact of Genocide as if mass deportations was a common form of civilized policy and behavior justified by acts of civilized society towards those who differed on national aspirations , aims and objectives ! From that perspective , whether Armenians or non-Armenians, all of us have the right, the duty and obligation to challenge those that try to belittle such barbaric acts and distort history. We all must try to stop any and all repeats of such acts anywhere in the world, ensuring that human norms and standards are upheld at all times and that deliberate attempts to obliterate history and memory do not have a place in a rational discourse.
 

Guest - May
2010-03-07 10:07:31
  By the way, Sergio, Hitler never said that. That's another piece of Armenian propaganda.
 

Guest - noname
2010-03-07 09:53:03
  Yes ,make a declaration about he genocide of the indians ..You are not ridiculous enough ..usa was discovered in 1492,right?But it was a english colony until 1783 .,.So you want to blame the Americans ,but you blame the british in the end..So clever..
 

Guest - May
2010-03-07 09:52:45
  Turkey is not afraid to discuss the events. The ban is not on speaking about dead Armenians. It's on wrongly characterizing the deaths from their rebellion and the (rightly) forced relocation, starvation (which all groups suffered), and massacres (which all groups suffered and which were instigated by the Armenians against Turks or Kurds against Armenians in the majority of cases). That said, there should be no such restriction on speech. However, the reason for such laws is simply because Turks don't like lies and idiocy, not because there is anything to the truth of the matter which Turks wish to hide. The Armenians rebelled in Anatolia and were forced to move. Many died of starvation and were massacred. None of those massacres were organized by the government. The Armenians of Western Anatolia were untouched since they had nothing to do with the rebellion. If this is like the Holocaust, why were the Armenians of Istanbul still headed off to church every week as usual? Were the Jews of Berlin left to go off to their synagogues ever week? Or were they the first to be killed? So, where is the genocide? Isn't it much more plausible that the government was actually concerned about the Armenian rebellion, and thus removed the populous for no other reason? And where are the orders to kill? Why did so many Armenians survive these marches if they were meant to kill? The obvious answer is the right one: the government responded to a threat with relocation, and although deaths resulted from those marches, death was not the intention. Starvation was rampant already, and took many Turkish and Kurdish lives, too. Massacres did as well. That marchers were more liable to starve or be massacred by bandits is not on the Ottoman government's head. They responded to a traitorous populous in the only way which had any chance of success, and only then reluctantly as it diverted man power away from a losing war. On the other hand, I would like Armenians to confront what they did during that period, and to think carefully on what exactly their ancestors were planning to do in Anatolia had their (ridiculously ill-fated) rebellion succeeded. I imagine the fate of the Turks and Kurds of the region would have been similar to the fate of those Turks and Kurds living in Van at the time, and the fate of the Circassians the Armenians and Russians conspired to exterminate in the Caucasus in the 1800s -- a legitimate genocide (unlike these events which are falsely characterized as such), if there ever was one.
 

Guest - Cihan
2010-03-07 01:43:43
  Lets be logical and lets not have opinion without information. 1- In 1915 Ottoman Empire was fighting in 4 -5 different fronts Caucaus against Russia Sina-Pestine against England Iraq against England Dardanelles -Çanakkale against England Romania and Balkans 2- The top commander of Ottoman army was a GERMAN - LIMAN VON SANDERS 3- Ermenians lived for 600 years under Ottoman Empire as a priority minority.They did not have a single problem along those years.If they had, I assure everybody by now , the world has been shaken with this info.So if they say nothing it means they accept they lived as a priority minority along 600 years. 4-Ermenians who has been send to south, were originally living in the middile of the war field with Russia.So if Ottoman intended to have genocite on those people, would have done so at their original places and announce it as a war loss.So simple. No one today would have find any excuse to blame Turkey . 5- Ermenians were sent to south by trains, by ships and by horse cars and / or walk. 6-Catholic protestant Ermenians , merchant Ermenians and Ermenians who are Ottoman army members ) were stayed where they are.They were not send to anywhere . 7-So far NONE Ermenians mass graves are detected along this area where Ermenians passed to south and all this area is civilized today almost totally. On the contrary the mass graves they declared to be the Ermenians graves were proreved to be the mass graves for Turkish villagers killed by Ermenians. 8-Ermenians joined to Russian army and used to kill Turkish soldiers from their back hoping to establish their state on this land.This was an ongoing issue so Ottoman decided to move them out of the area. 9-The number of Ermenians died in 1915 varies between 400 000 ( declared in 1916 by British historian in and propagandist Tonynbee in his famous book called blue book which he himself later accepted this book was written for the purpose of propaganda ) to 3 000 000 by different resources.They still today can not agree on a certain number . 10-In ottoman parliment , there were 1 parlimenter for 100 000 citizen and there were 13 Ermenian parlimenter to represent Ermenians living in Ottoman Empire.So number of total Ermenians living in Ottoman land was not more than 1350000,According to American resources, number of total Ermenians in Ottoman were 850 000. 11- As the ottoman was loosing land there were millions immigrant Turks to Anatolia from many different places so epidemics was widespread as cholera, typhus, plaque,syphilis.Same was in Russia and Balkans.According to German resources everyday in Erzurum ( an anatolian city ) 200 people were dying everyday because of epidemics and hungry.For example in the Ottoman Russian war in 1877 - 1878 almost 40 000 soldiers were dead of typhus.The context to the subject is yes many of Ermenians also dead of epidemics on the way to south as many of Turks were dead for the same reason. 12- In 1918 , The capital of Ottaman İstanbul was invaded by British and they had an access to all Ottoman documents.Still them and Americans looked for it but could not find any document to prove so called genocide in 1918-1919. Today Even Germany accepted the genocide in their parliment although they themselves were ruling the Ottoman army and they were part of it.They can not show any single real data justifying the genocide 13.-If we come to today, between 1973 -1985 Ermenian terror organization ASALA killed around 80 Turkish diplomats and many civil people. In 1985 Asala stopped then PKK came to the stage. Many more facts can be added to the list. For those who have opinion but no information, I suggest them to READ,.Reading is a painfull process for many people BUT to declare opinion is easier. All above facts can be found just searching the web ( those having opinions no information you BETTER start SEARCHING non Turkish resources ) ,Turkish Ottoman documentary is open to public and Turkey declared we are ready to dıscuss the subject within the international court but this was rejected.Also Ermenians documents are close to public they dont show them to anybody and they dont accept to take the subject to the international court. As the last few points , to kill 1 500 000 people you need 1 500 000 bullets and enough number of Ottoman soldiers .In 1915 , After all those long wars in Balkans , Ottoman did not have enough number of soldiers to send to Dardannells -Çanakkale to defend their country against British ships and British soldiers and all the students of medicine and low faculties gone to Dardannells and almost all of those young students were died.İn the first years of Turkısh republic, because of this reason, there were almost no medical doctors as they were all died in Çanakkale. Under those conditions, Ottoman applied a genocide to Ermenians ????? The Same Ottoman who in 1492 wellcomed more than 200 000 jewish people running away from Spanish torture ??? This is the game on the stage to get land from Turkey,For us this is so simple......... Lets be realistic and logical and lets read and have information before declaring our opinions. I know reading is a boring activity.........
 

Guest - Christoph
2010-03-06 17:12:39
  For a century it has been against the law for Turks to even discuss the events of 1915. Does this behavior by Turkey demonstrate the attitude of a confident nation, unconcerned about it's conduct during those awful days of 1915? No, it shows a nation very afraid of discussing those events openly. Why is that???
 

Guest - Aussie
2010-03-06 15:23:27
  Having lived in Turkey for 3 years and listened to Turkish friends talk of this it amazes me the of blindness that exists in Turkey. It is not the US that recognises the "genocide" it is the majority of the "free" thinking world. Face up to the facts and pull your head from the sand.
 

Guest - Brian
2010-03-06 14:08:04
  Here are a few websites (there are many more) that outline the USA's programme of max extinction of the Native Americans. Why don't the Turkish government make a declaration about this in response? The USA has NEVER admitted genocide, yet they feel they have a right to accuse Turkey. (The first one is about the attempt to exterminate the Irish by the British, the rest are about the "good old Uncle Sam" http://www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/unit_6.html http://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/NorthAmerica/UnitedStates02.htm http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm http://www.enotes.com/genocide-encyclopedia/native-americans http://www.nemasys.com/ghostwolf/Native/genocide.shtml http://www.lcsc.edu/elmartin/historybehindthenews/Spring%202005/Delema.htm
 

Guest - Brian
2010-03-06 14:01:13
  "Hitler's concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America's extermination - by starvation and uneven combat - of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity." P. 202, "Adolph Hitler" by John Toland"
 

Guest - Brian
2010-03-06 13:46:23
  7 hills, you made a very good point..."There should be an independent committee established to get to the truth of the matter after both sides have agreed to abide by the conclusions/results of the research and studies." Turkey has offered this as an option on numerous occasions, and the offer in still on the table for an independent inquiry handled by Armenian, Turkish and International historians, but Armenia will not agree to this. My own personal opinion being that the evidence is so weak that they are afraid of the results. On the other hand Turkey is prepared to accept the outcome of this inquiry. The truth for me seems to be leaning towards no genocide.
 

Guest - Brian
2010-03-06 13:36:32
  David is correct. The Germans in WW11, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the French in Vietnam,Algeria, Polynesia, the British, just about all over the world including Australia, Africa and New Zealand, (We must not forget that it was the British who "invented" the concentration camp during the Boer war and murdered countless thousands of women and children. These mass murders happened just 13 years before the 1915 incidents in Turkey), the Dutch in the East Indies and Africa, the Spanish and Portuguese in Central and South America,. Then there were the white American settlers who successfully wiped out whole nations of native Americans in both Canada and the USA. (This was still going on in 1915 in the US, and they even murdered people by giving them blankets infested with smallpox, a kind of predecessor to todays biological weapons) There are many stronger cases for genocide. I believe if every one of those countries got together and made a statement saying, YES, our country committed genocide against nations, they might have the authority to question Turkey. Even if they do, the historical evidence that there was a genocide is very very weak indeed. Anything that happened in Turkey is insignificant when compared to the evil crimes committed by these nations. Turkey should make some resolutions in it's own Parliament, and declare that these countries committed genocide. The list above is a good start for them!
 

Guest - yildirim
2010-03-06 13:20:27
  Us and Armenians think they win the day.But and of the day you are the loosers.Armenians pay the price first world var beliving to outsiders now they do it agaein .I am sorry to ordnary pople they suffer because some sad politions .
 

Guest - Kiran
2010-03-06 11:41:45
  This is all about money and land. The Greeks and Armenians are only interested in turning back the clock, and seeking claims to our motherland. This is a long-term objective of Armenians and Greeks, who use the EU and USA to "legalise" their claims for compensation, and property. Believe me, we need to wake up, support our Azeri brothers, pull out of EU negotiations and focus on stronger ties with all Turkic-states, China, Russia and free trade. Soon you will see court-cases demanding Billions of $$ from the money-obsessed groups.
 

Guest - David
2010-03-06 09:56:59
  Wasn't Hiroshima and Nagasaki acts of genocide. Shouldn't the US be brought to bear? Perhaps raising the atomic bombing of 2 cities containing civilians as an act of genocide to the UN should be concidered.
 

Guest - sam
2010-03-06 08:59:32
  a very sad day in US history ... it has been blinded by the Armenian diaspora without having sufficient knowledge about anything pertaining their standing. Very Disappointing !!! HISTORY SHOULD BE DECIDED BY HISTORIANS WITH FACT ... NOT FICTION or Armenian LIES. UNCLE SAM NEEDS TO WAKE UP ... unfortunately the more vocal and money you throw at politicians they seem to think that it may win them terms in office. USA has now endangered its relationship with the Only Islamic state that has backed them not only politically but with their lives ... just ask your Korean Vets or Afghanistan service personnel (why do they have a Turkish Flag on their uniforms ? yes, thats right! a Turkish badge, its the only Flag that has respects from all parties) NO LONGER A US FAN of HYPOCRISY ... by a PROUD TURK
 

Guest - Kangaroo
2010-03-06 05:07:26
  @7 Hills - I like the way you think. We need an independent body to investigate the historical archives from both sides and determine once and for all what realy did happen. We, Turkey and Armenia want nothing but the truth. And then lets look at how to live together as good neighbours.
 

Guest - James
2010-03-06 01:02:41
  Turkey ended the protocols by trying TO ADD THE KARABAKH ISSUE into discussion. The Genocide resolution is being using as a SCAPEGOAT.
 

Guest - niko
2010-03-06 00:01:14
  I agree with Solomon Telerian. It is about time for Turkey to accept that the Ottoman Rulers did bad things to many of its neighbors However Turkey now is a democratic country with European aspirations for a better life and prosperity of its people She must accept the fact that these things really happened and appologize for the wrong doing of its predecessors It happened with Germany,South Africa and others that put dignity and honest patriotism. to overcome this stigma This is the 21st Century and Turkey and all nations must find peace which will enhance the lives of the whole world
 

Guest - Farhad
2010-03-05 23:16:55
  So what if US Congress approves the genocide bill? Turkey should calm down - nothing is going to change anyway, no one is gonna force present-day Turks pay reparations to Armenians for crimes they never did! What frustrates me is that - Nobody, even Turkish politicians deny the fact that hundreds of thousands of Armenians were murdered, but why do other countries avoid talking about the casualties that Muslim population also suffered from Armenians during that period of time?! Double-standards maybe...And what right do nations like USA, France, Russia etc have to condemn Turks of genocide - when they themselves committed atrocities which they arrogantly deny and refuse to accept??!!! They should look at their own bloody history first, before judging other nations!!
 

Guest - Murat
2010-03-05 22:57:32
  One nonsense does not deserve another. This is just a meaningless act by a bunch of politicians who have no clue. Truth remains. Protocols should not be held hostage to Azeri or US Congress whims. Emotional reactions of Turkish government feeds the frenzy. The whole spectacle was a disgrace for all involved. Turkish bullying and threats are just as unseemly and counterproductive. Best answer is to move forward and get the protocols signed and let normalization proceed.
 

Guest - Sergio
2010-03-05 22:52:19
  The whole human race will spit on the faces of the modern politicians in this world, shame on them that after 95 years they are still thinking why to recognize the Armenian genocide. everybody is responsible even after 70 years later when Hitler told that{who after all remembers the Armenian massacres} After 70 years the world is still blind, they are encouraging these ideas, shame on you.........
 

Guest - Murat Yetkin
2010-03-05 22:44:27
  First of all i want to ask a question commantators; what do you know about the indicents that occured during the deportation of Armenians? You do not know anythink about the events. The Ottoman administration had given the order of deporting the Armenians because of the behaves of the Armenians. During the war of Sarıkamış the Armenian militias had sabotaged the Ottoman army as if they were Russian soldiers. They killed countless Ottoman soldiers. In addition to this the Armenians had devastated the Turkish villages and towns. In consequence of these incidents the Ottoman administration ordered to the army to deport the Armenians to a safer place where they wouldn't be affective and harmful to the army and the innocent turks. This place was north of Syria. But during the deportation some Armenians had died because of illness, cold, malnutrition, and especially the attacks of the Armenian militias. In the other hand the cencus had showed the population of Armenians had been living inte east province of Anatolia was less than 1.5 million. Actually this so called "genocide" is the reality of the war. You can find the photos of the turkish villagers whom were killed by the Armenians without mercy.
 

Guest - jberejik
2010-03-05 22:28:52
  Turkey committed genocide. But that was in the past, and there is no such thing as inter-generational guilt. However, the current government is guilty of lying about the past.
 

Guest - Emir Soler
2010-03-05 22:22:31
  In USA $$$$ speaks. The Armenian-American lobby spends an estimated $40 million annually on furthering its agenda, which revolves around recognition of an "Armenian Bogus Genocide
 

Guest - CyFI
2010-03-05 21:37:43
  I am American. I don't pretend to even understand all the issues that resulted in what happened in 1915. I wonder if anyone alive today does? Today, our current administration passed a resolution in Congress, that most Americans think of as nothing more than an attempt to distract us from the Democrats total failure to deal with the problems going on in America. This feel good stuff is just cheap theatrics. I hope the people of Turkey realize the cheap politics in this and understand the a majority of Americans don't approve of this. Whatever happened needs to be discussed by the parties involved and serious academics who really have studied the issues, not some stupid grandstanding liberal politicians who are wrecking our country. I can assure the people of Turkey after the next election you will see a lot of new faces in Congress. Totally Disgusted North Carolina Independent Voter
 

Guest - Philip, London
2010-03-05 21:24:33
  The truth hurts.
 

Guest - J X
2010-03-05 21:07:17
  Turkey should immediatly request a full closure of all American bases in Turkey
 

Guest - donha
2010-03-05 21:04:36
  No, the only ‘development’ that slowed down the pace of talks with the Armenian side on the so-called ‘protocols’ was RTE’s demanding, almost immediately after the signing of the agreement, that the Nagorno-Karabakh issue be a condition. An issue which has absolutely nothing to do with Turkey in the first place, it is a conflict between two other sovereign nations.
 

Guest - curt winterfeldt
2010-03-05 21:00:07
  Genocide....the word that the United States Congress wishes to use against Turkey about the Armenians almost 100 years ago. Or, is this designed and promoted by the Armenian Lobby in Washington? Will the United States admit that it committed a planned eratication (genocide) against the American Indian in the 1800's? If one is to accuse others of such a crime will they accept the same for themselves?
 

Guest - Hovsep Mardirossian
2010-03-05 20:48:07
  That the protocols were dead we all knew from the very first moment when they were signed. That Turkey, in spite of discussions and negotiations preceding the signature of the protocols, kept insisting on pre-conditions being satisfied indicates they were not interested in the opening of the borders with Armenia per se without forcing on Armenia and Armenians everywhere their own version and settlement of genocide claims. For 15 years Armenia has lived with closed borders with Turkey. What does this demonstrate? Turkey has to understand that this issue will not go away, and that year after year more and more societies will come to learn about the tragic events of 1915-1918 for what they are. As for Armenian generations to come, the memory of those who perished will grow in significance until justice is served.
 

Guest - Hairenakitz
2010-03-05 20:43:05
  As much as we "ARMENIANS" relief ourselves 'ANNUALLY' to remind the world about Turkey, we also relief ourselves 'ANNUALLY' to put CLOWNS like Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton under pressure for their sold out moronic humanity! ---------------------------- Certainly "We Will All Cherish The Day" that Turkey will face the dooms day! The Day that Turkey Will Admit & Repent for the Crimes It Committed Against Humanity! --------------------------------- Turkey has nobody else to blame, but itself for its 95 years shameless denial, repudiation and falsification of the facts! ------------------------------------- You Will Remember 24 April for ever!
 

Guest - truth will never be changed!
2010-03-05 20:41:16
  aftab khan i feel sorry for u, news flash they will never denounce they actualy already tanked US for approval, dont talk about diaspora as of ur talkin about another race we are all Armenians we have the same mentality wat u hear ur officials say is bunch of nonsens they have noting els to say...
 

Guest - Ludvik Ayvazian
2010-03-05 20:40:47
  In football: Turkey - Armenia 2-0 But in politics:Armenia -Turkey 10-0. See you in the next round.
 

Guest - Hairenakitz
2010-03-05 20:36:21
  As much as we "ARMENIANS" relief ourselves 'ANNUALLY' to remind the world about Turkey, we also relief ourselves 'ANNUALLY' to put CLOWNS like Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton under pressure for their sold out moronic humanity! ---------------------------- Certainly "We Will All Cherish The Day" that Turkey will face the dooms day! The Day that Turkey Will Admit & Repent for the Crimes It Committed Against Humanity! --------------------------------- Turkey has nobody else to blame, but itself for its 95 years shameless denial, repudiation and falsification of the facts! ------------------------------------- You Will Remember 45 April for ever!
 

Guest - Koko Riki
2010-03-05 20:10:14
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR2010030405390.html
 

Guest - Tom
2010-03-05 19:57:47
  The events that happen in 1915 need to be recognized that means we cannot just recognize the killing of innocent Armenians but we need to recognize also the killings of innocent Turks, Kurds and Azeris. This genocide should be called the eastern Asian minor genocide. When people claim that this is Armenian genocide they are saying that the killings of innocent women and children of Turkish, Azeris and Kurds decent never happened. This is not about punishing a people it must be about justice for all Turks, Armenians, Azeris and Kurds that were affected by the events of 1915. To be honest this will never be solve with historians but it can be solved if this case was given to the Hague. Look at the way Serbia right now just sent out a court order for a Bosian Muslim named Ejup Ganic. Serbia is accusing him of killing forty innocent soldiers in the Hague. It is internationally known that Serbia committed a genocide in Kosovo and Bosnia and Herzegovina but there is also considerable proof that Albanians and Muslim Bosnians and Bosnian Croats did commit a genocide against Serbia. And if that is true they will put Ejup Ganic and others like him in the Hague. This is the only process that gives families justice. Of course, I’m not saying gather up people who help and organized the killings because most of them are died all I’m saying only a court can see the truth in the eastern Asian minor genocide.
 

Guest - adaam
2010-03-05 19:35:01
  why is america stirring the pot. it should be apologizing for slavery;genocide against it;s natives;cambodians, iraqis and others.what about it:s ally vicious wars using helicopter gunships'phantom jets etc' too many trangressions to list
 

Guest - ara
2010-03-05 19:01:56
  For those who advocate that Armenians of Karabakh live UNDER azeri rule, I would recommend reading WASHINGTON POST article(from march 5, 2010) about how the president (king) of Azerbaijan has robbed his people and bought luxury properties in Dubai. I am pretty much sure if that were to happen in Turkey, Turkish people would have thrown this president out.
 

Guest - nuretto
2010-03-05 18:48:55
  So far 20 countries have officially recognized the events of the period as genocide. The non-binding US resolution of the House Foreign Relations Committee is a signal that eventually they will follow the international community. Turkey should resolve and heal the issue with the neighbor Armenia through bilateral dialog instead of giving concessions to foreign governments.
 

Guest - nuretto
2010-03-05 18:48:06
  So far 20 countries have officially recognized the events of the period as genocide. The non-binding US resolution of the House Foreign Relations Committee is a signal that eventually they will follow the international community. Turkey should resolve and heal the issue with the neighbor Armenia through bilateral dialog instead of giving concessions to foreign governments.
 

Guest - Garo Avedis
2010-03-05 18:43:39
  Turkey is always ready for blackmail,now its blackmailing USA,it will not work this time.
 

Guest - tony
2010-03-05 18:28:41
  History will repeat itself. Last year turkey waited for after obamas 24 April letter. When it was a soft statement, then the world expected turkey to do the right thing and open the border. Well zero. Now again a year later turkey says they are going to wait untill after 24 April to vote on both border opening and the protocol. I believe obama will make a similar soft statement and the world in 2011 will be saying "NOW WHAT DOES TURKEY WANT?" and again no border opening or protocol signing. TYPICAL.
 

Guest - 7 Hills
2010-03-05 18:22:15
  I agree with Solomon Telerian. I also think that if this issue is so important to most of the world, there should be an independent committee established to get to the truth of the matter after both sides have agreed to abide by the conclusions/results of the research and studies. The big question is, Do both sides really want the truth to be known, or just continue to hide and ignore things. We all know there are 3 sides to every story and in this case; Turkey's side, Armenia's side and.. the truth.. I, like most of the world, am interested in the truth.
 

Guest - aftab khan
2010-03-05 18:13:07
  I feel sorry for the people of Armenia who stand as the biggest losers. They should have openly voiced their opposition to the call by the diaspora. Turkey and Armenia have to live together. They are neighbors to one another. They would need each other in good times and bad times too. But the diaspora who has been exploited by a hidden hand will never deliver any help to Armenia or its citizens. So now the ball is in the court of Armenian leaders and its public to denounce this action. This decision does not guarantee the Armenians anything except that the enemies of Turkey had their day in the US Congress.
 

Guest - Solomon Telerian
2010-03-05 18:02:26
  I for one understand that Turkey is trying to hide the real problem at hand. If historical evidents show that there was a genocideTurkey needs to come to the same aragment as Germany did with the Jews. There isnt any hatred just simple understanding from both countries, and in time these two countries can move on and let histroy never repeat itself.
 

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