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BARÇIN YİNANÇ > Turkish and Israeli societies have evolved down opposite paths

The start of my journalistic career coincides with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. At that time, Turkish society in my view had not yet matured in terms of plural democracy. I thought that the people of Israel, the other democratic country in the Middle East, were more pluralistic and liberal. Despite Turkey’s wish to join the European Union, Israel endorsed more European values when compared with Turkey.

I could not have imagined at that time that one of the consequences of the fall of iron curtain would be the change in the Israeli liberal landscape. “When you call a GSM service, the second language is not English; it says dial 2 for Russian,” a Turkish official who once lived in Israel told me. Jewish immigrants from former Soviet lands now outweigh the European social democrats, which are the founding fathers of Israel, he added.

In the last two decades Turkish society has evolved to a more pluralistic one. Not only is the official state thesis being challenged more; the tendency to look to the world with security lenses is becoming weaker. There is still of course lots of room for improvement.

Israel, on the other hand, is sliding more toward the far right. The fact that the birth rate among ultra–orthodox is much higher than “secular-moderate” Israelis tells us that this slide toward the far right is not only temporary.

It is often presumed that it is easier to make pace with hawks as skeptics can give their blessing more comfortably to an agreement reached by hawkish leaders. Currently, there is no such indication that this presumption will be valid for the upcoming Israeli government that will be formed following Tuesday’s elections.

Actually, it would not be a surprise if the new government decides to apologize to Turkey for the notorious Mavi Marmara incident, in which Turkish citizens were killed by Israeli soldiers. Even some kind of a formula might be found to fulfill Turkey’s condition to lift the embargo to Gaza. That will serve to improve the image of Israel and it is an easier step to undertake, rather than sit with Palestinians for a genuine peace.

So for as long as Israel maintains its stance toward the Arab Spring, seeing in it a cover for keeping the status quo rather than an opportunity for a new peace initiative, it will be very hard for Turkey and Israel to put relations back on track. The conviction that the turmoil in the region eases the pressure on Israel to work for peace and that each passing day works in favor of new settlements is shortsighted.

Until now, Israel faced a totally incompetent Arab world, unable to show a unified front. This might change in the medium term.

When and once diplomatic channels are opened between Turkey and Israel, Turkey will keep reminding Israel of this fact.

In addition to the Arab-Israeli conflict, Iran’s controversial nuclear program will remain the “potentially explosive” issue that will hang over bilateral relations between Ankara and Tel Aviv. Turkey will top the list of those opposing a military strike on Iran, and the strain in Turkey’s relations with Iran due to the disagreement over the war in Syria will have no affect on that position.

While no one wants to have strong prejudgments, Turkish officials that I have talked with remain rather more pessimistic than optimistic for the future Turkish–Israeli relations.

January/22/2013

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Oz_ man

1/23/2013 9:18:03 AM

Johanna the hatred I'm referring to is the Palestinian one against Israelis. Palestinians are a multi religious people including Christians which don't have much love for Israel. As for history 46 years of occupation and what has Israel got to show? What contribution has been made? I think we all know the answer!

Johanna Dew

1/22/2013 7:54:01 PM

@Oz-mam: why they are hatred is written in a book. And Christians, Orthodox, Hindus, Buddhist, atheist among many others are not obsessed with Israel.And do some research about history.. @supertramp: I am not a Jew nor an Israeli, neither a Turk but I do reside in Turkey. And I don't have problems with my anger only with the accuracy of mrs Barinch who I like as a journalist. thank you.).

Thessalonian

1/22/2013 6:51:32 PM

"Actually, it would not be a surprise if the new government decides to apologize to Turkey for the notorious Mavi Marmara incident, in which Turkish citizens were killed by Israeli soldiers. Even some kind of a formula might be found to fulfill Turkey’s condition to lift the embargo to Gaza." An indication that you do not read Israel's newspapers carefully Ms. Yinanc. For if you did, you most certainly would not be able to make such a statement while maintaining a straight face. Regards

Murat

1/22/2013 5:32:04 PM

Israel has been digging itself in a hole since long before Arab spring or mavi Marmara. It has done all it can not to make friends and lose the ones they have. They can not even count on blind US support it seems. As erratic as it may have been, Turkey has clearly been more liberal and more democratic and less militaristic. Otherwise Turkish politics and society has always been conservative. This is hardly new. Whereas the slide of Israel to sharp right and a neigborhood bully has been nonstop.

Oz_man .

1/22/2013 5:20:08 PM

The problem with Israel is that it is not interested in peace whatsoever. Israel has occupied the West Bank for 46 years. 46 years and have taken the freedom of Palestinians away. Sometimes when countries occupy another nation they leave behind a legacy which may include schools, roads etc. What have the Israelis have to say for 46 years? A big zero. What is even more tragic is they have no clue why they are hated.

anton supertramp

1/22/2013 5:08:59 PM

@ johanna, i know israelis and their contribution to mankind i dont deny it, and the relevance of this subject with this story is just lıght years beyond me :D you guys are fine and lıke most of us are decent, happy now :)?, what i see most in israeli public is that they tend to belive evryone is against them(like turks) threfore right or wrong they blindly support israelin every case i would respect more to your and mcglothin's comments if all of them wasnt composed seemingly out of anger:)

mara mcglothin

1/22/2013 4:08:24 PM

Good one JOHANNA DEW and JD POMERANTZ. We all need to look closely at ourselves and see what we can do. It appears that religious zealotry is alive and well in many countries. Israel can't be the only one blamed. MS YINANC You have missed the mark this time.

Baris

1/22/2013 2:33:56 PM

Well said Ms Yinanç. Something else which will work against Israel's desire to maintain the status quo is the fact that she is losing support from her western allies. The vote at the UN to give Palestine non-member observer State is proof of that, as is Israel's allies' open support of a solution based on Israel leaving the occupied territories. Turkey and Israel must indeed overcome their differences, but the Israeli public must realise that long term peace, based on compromises, is a must.

Rosalind Polat

1/22/2013 1:53:54 PM

Well said David. Yes in time Israelli mentality will change due not only to Russian immigrants but also Arab immigrants both cultures resulting in a higher birth rate than the original Ashkenazi Israelis but the neighbouring Arab culture is changing unfortunately not for the better. Instead of the hoped for democracy as a result of the Arab spring Muslim dictatorship and oppression are on the way no wonder Israelis feel threatened

Johanna Dew

1/22/2013 1:30:15 PM

@supertramp: thank you for your kind and wise words. And, indeed, I became pretty defensive when people always relate everything in the world with Israel..) But that open civil society out there, with people literally from all over the world incl. 1.5 million Arab Israeli's, creates a lot of brilliancy while all those fine Turkish youngsters are caved by politicians and an archaic society..:p
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