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MUSTAFA AYDIN > So what if Greeks and Turks are talking to each other?

The visit of Greek Prime Minister Antonis Samaras to Turkey with several Cabinet members and businessmen for the second High-Level Cooperation Council meeting between Turkey and Greece this week provided an opportunity to assess the success of “rapprochement” between the two countries.

The signing of 25 agreements in a wide range of areas from tourism to health, illegal immigration and so on gave a rosy air to the visit. But the fact that nothing about the visit caught the attention of Turkish journalists sufficiently to focus on more than a couple of hours paints a gloomy picture. Admittedly, Turkey is a country where the public agenda changes every couple of hours, and the attention span of both the people and journalists are short. Nonetheless, the signing of so many agreements with a neighboring country does not excite Turks anymore. Blame the government; it has been doing this for over a decade now, so it has lost its novelty. Also, after more than 11 years of “exploratory talks” between the two countries, people have come to expect something more: Some sort of a compromise on the age-old Aegean disputes; a positive announcement on Cyprus; unequivocal support for Turkey’s EU bid from the Greek premier; a clear statement on the Heybeliada Seminary from the Turkish prime minister, etc.

We owe the current positive atmosphere in bilateral relations to foreign ministers İsmail Cem and George Papandreou, who played a crucial role in jump-starting much-needed dialogue between the two countries in the late 1990s. Earthquakes in both countries and the capture of Abdullah Öcalan, the leader of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), after leaving Greek Embassy in Kenya, marked a turning point in relations. Along the way, one of the important stumbling blocks, the Cyprus issue, was transferred to the Turkey-EU problems list after the Cypriot Republic became a member of the EU in 2004. Thus, what is left to discuss in the “exploratory talks,” started in 2002, are the disputes over territorial waters, airspace and the continental shelf in the Aegean, the rights of minorities on both sides, and other bits and pieces. As the two sides have met 52 times so far, one would have expected that an overall settlement would have been found by now.

Although they seem rather keen on improving relations, especially in terms of low-level politics – 47 agreements were signed in just two premiers’ respective visits – “there are still issues,” as Samaras pointed out, that the two countries “do not agree on and [they] may be significant.”

He also mentioned that they “are trying to create relations of mutual respect,” whatever that means. Neither side admits it openly, but Turkey’s EU membership prospect has clearly had an enormous influence on the pace of the bilateral relations. Once it was halted, the exploratory talks also lost their momentum. The pace of the negotiations also slowed down because of the economic crisis in Greece and Turkey’s divided attention in foreign policy, which is increasingly focusing on the Middle East amid the Arab Spring.

Although Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan mentioned solving the Cyprus problem and “burying it in history” during the press conference, it is clear that neither country is ready yet to start give-and-take negotiations on high-level political issues, though they seem content at keeping up appearances in exploratory talks and signing several agreements on low-level political topics. In the meantime, Turks and Greeks have been busy creating joint businesses and civil society initiatives. They are just waiting to see when the politicians on both sides could see that. There is still hope so long as the people on both sides are ahead of their political leaders; but time is important as they might get bored of decades of talks and move on. After all, how long are they expected to continue to “explore” each other – and to what end?

March/07/2013

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Andreas Georghiou

3/12/2013 5:03:25 AM

There are English colonial documents that list the names og Greeks murdered by Turkish terrorists of the TMT together with dates and exact locations. A similar list for Turks murdered by Greeks also exists. So, why are are some people refusing the reality of what happened and instead maintain a lop sided view of history. Such hatred that blinds the mind!

john albay

3/11/2013 11:36:41 PM

@thessalonian, just try for once to answer my questions,or cant you do that? What abour ENOSIS,what abour EOKA B and the murderer sampson,what about pushing us into 3% OF cyprus? Why do the greek cypriots believe they should run cyprus,why do they think they have the right to say who is and who is not a cypriot? And you wonder why we dont trust the greek cypriots,or the greeks and their national guard. I am waiting for a real answer from you and the other greek cypriot posters!!

Thessalonian

3/11/2013 2:25:58 PM

@john albay. "What rubbish you write!" Regards

john albay

3/10/2013 8:59:42 PM

thessalonian My I have struck a raw nerve with you,bravo! You greeks and greek cypriots Never,ever talk about ENOSIS, the murderer sampson or EOKA B!You denied the murders of us Turkish cypriots,yet you people post your lies and rubbish in our newspapers but we cant post in your (they are all taken down or not printed!) We Turkish cypriots do not trust you greek with good cause,and as for 50 year old baggage,the greek cypriots still have the inhuman embargo on even today! I love when you get mad

Chris Green

3/8/2013 12:58:44 PM

Given the experiences of Colonel John and his contemporaries, I can understand entirely where he comes from however remaining in a permanent limbo is actually aiding no one. There are parts of what Thessalonian says in his/her first comment that I (unusually) agree with however both Turkey and Greece are Guarantor Powers and therefore have a contribution to make over the CyProb. A key to improving bi-lateral relations between two often disparate nations is to continue to increase 2-way trade.

Nikos K.

3/7/2013 8:06:23 PM

There is not much to discuss regarding the Aegean. If Turkey feels its claims on the Aegean are just, why hasn't it signed the International Law of the Sea then? I think it's pretty obvious why...

Manolis Xenopoulos

3/7/2013 5:50:56 PM

I concur with Thessalonian on Mr.John Albay. Love and hatred are difficult to hide (and it ain't the former).

Murat

3/7/2013 4:22:51 PM

Sometimes rubbish is just that. No need for compromise but lets have a dialogue?

Thessalonian

3/7/2013 3:05:52 PM

john albay. You are indeed offensive... Isn't time yet you discarded the 50 year old baggage you are carrying and move on? Or perhaps let those who do in fact want some progress made move on? As far as posting "rubbish" is concerned, it is indeed a frequent habit of yours which can be readily attested by most who frequent this site and have got to know you very well. Regards

Pawel Bury

3/7/2013 12:01:08 PM

Greeks and Turks never stopped talking to each other.
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