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• MUSTAFA AKYOL
Thursday, July 29 2010 19:55 GMT+2
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Why Muslim culture needs more fun

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Mustafa AKYOL
Is the popularity of Santa Claus in Turkey an example of the West’s 'cultural imperialism'? Or should Muslims question why they don’t have similar symbols of laughter and joy?

It happens toward every year’s end. The more Westernized part of Turkish society warms up for New Year’s Eve. Decorations are put up, parties are organized, and restaurants advertise eat-and-dance-all-night-long programs. Santa Clauses and pine trees show up in upscale malls. The Turks who embrace these Christmas symbols often have no idea about Christ. They just like the lifestyle of the wealthy, happy and joyful people they see in Hollywood movies.

Meanwhile, people from the Islamic camp often whine about this as an “erosion of values.” They blame both the “cultural imperialism” of the West, especially America, and the “imitators” at home who buy into it. As an alternative, some organize events or an “Islamic New Year’s Eve,” in which the Koran is recited in Arabic, and prayers are made for, say, the liberation of Palestine.

An inherently grave religion?

I, of course, believe in an open society, and thus welcome both ways of “celebrating” the New Year. But I can’t overlook the fundamental difference between the two: The Western way is full of laughter and joy. The “Islamic” way, if there is one, really, is much more sober and dry.

The same mood can be observed on other important days of the Muslim calendar: In the two “Eids” (“bayrams”) of the year, there is nothing that competes with the belly laugh of Santa Claus and the cool gifts piled in stockings. A Turkish Muslim friend of mine, who lives with her Muslim husband and kid in California, recently complained about that. “Both Christians and Jews here have entertaining religious holidays that the kids love,” she said. “What can we do on the Eid? Slaughter a lamb in the backyard?”

By looking at this contrast, an observer can easily conclude that Christianity and Judaism are inherently more fun-loving religions, while Islam is, again inherently, a grave one.

But that conclusion would be wrong. Observation is true only for the contemporary world. When we are speaking about Santa Claus, decorated pine trees, and nicely packed presents, we are referring to a certain type of Christian culture that arose in the West in modern times. Medieval Christianity, with its scary gothic cathedrals, inquisitions, witch hunts, and exaggerated fear of sin and demons, was certainly much less fun.

Even today there is a big difference between Eastern Christianity and its Western, especially American, counterpart. Go to a Protestant church in southern California, and then an Eastern Orthodox one in Russia, and you will see the difference.

Islam, too, is predominantly an Eastern religion. Its culture evolved mainly in the pre-modern Middle East, and within agricultural societies consisting mostly of peasants. (The merchant class, which was quite influential in the earliest centuries of Islam, declined gradually as the world trade routes shifted away from the Middle East.)

Agricultural societies are not dynamic. People don’t travel and see new things. If the land is arid, like it is in the Middle East, sustenance becomes life’s main challenge. You do not have many resources to feed your family, let alone buy gifts and organize parties. What you pray for most is not a good education, or a career. Rather you pray for more rainfall.

Some of the cultural traits that contemporary Muslim societies keep are the products of this historical context, rather than the Koran. When Muslims see any investment in entertainment, aesthetics or art as useless luxury, for example, they are just echoing the mentality of the agricultural society. The inferior role assigned to women comes from the same background.

Keeping modernity outside?

However, more and more Muslims are now living in industrial (and even post-industrial) societies. Even the ones in less developed countries get exposed to the modern world, and its glamour, through television and the Internet. And, not too surprisingly, most of them find this brave new world quite attractive.

Conservatives who are concerned with this “cultural imperialism” often find the solution in building safe havens for tradition. In extreme cases, such as Saudi Arabia and Iran, satellite dishes and the Internet are banned just to keep modernity outside. In other cases, the line of defense is enacted on a cultural level, and “Islamic” alternatives are promoted – things like the “Islamic New Year’s Eve” that I mentioned.

This effort of isolating Muslims from modernity is not only authoritarian, but is also destined to lose. This is because it clings to pre-modern traditions and lifestyles, which will inevitably be eroded by modernity.

What Muslims need to do rather is create their own modernity, by abandoning the bad aspects of their traditions (which there are many) and then articulating the values of their faith in a modern format. Introducing more joy and fun to Muslim events would be a good start.

The global world, after all, is an open market in which the most appealing culture “sells” most. If yours is not doing very well, you have nobody to blame but yourself.


 

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Guest - Russ in WV
2010-05-22 20:36:24
  Wonderful commentary. To all the fundamentalists--Muslim, Christian, Jew et al: LIGHTEN UP! There is no eleventh commandment to be dour and sad. Celebrate your faiths and stop mourning them. Why is there so much American cultural imperialism? 'Cause we're more fun. Don't believe me? Go to an amusement park in Pakistan then to Disneyland. Life is short, so pray hard, but play harder!
 

Guest - Newropean
2010-01-12 12:30:09
  Vural Korkmaz, my (quite western) is already full of laughter and joy, but even more so when I read your comments! Thanks for the good laughs every day! Now, I don't take narcotics or other drugs, drink alcohol or smoke, so these sources of joy already can't be responsible for my happiness...and the sex with my (Turkish, sic!) girlfriend is not that perverted... But why is it that I'm so happy all the time? Oh, snap, maybe because I live in a society where I don't have to care all the time what my family, my neighbours and even random people on the street think about me, how I look and what I do..
 

Guest - Z.B.
2010-01-06 20:11:24
  Burj means “Bridge the Gap” like Poel Sirat Means Bridge to get through in Trial. Turkey Empire since the days of Rome (Turkish word Rom) or Roman Empire with chariot Race right in Istanbul Islam due to its purity and piety was adopted by Eastern Roman Empire Turkish.Then Race was replaced by Holy Prophets Mixed gender family race to creating Democracy PMship to Ministers City Hall Taxation to CIA boss Who was investigating Minister Omer who eventually had defeated himself Roman Hecules.Amid Court Judgment Case Studies (termed Hadith) came Burj Dubai equivalent Higher Mud building above 4 storey when it made the Nabi little angry As mud Building is not as safe as Burj Dubai City Mosque Adhan at 158th floor Which will be fun for Muslim if CN Tower style relayed to the world as Radio communication related Minaret used for Adhan.So Burj can add thin metal tower addendum bringing it to even 3000 ft mark from current 2717ft.Islam festivals need not end after Eid Salat. Ramdhan Tree house lights for a month long can become pleasant for those who in the past used to come to wake up People to get up eat food to keep fast (usually by young neighborhood children) I used To finish my home work for school rush to park for athletic practice then go to school For 9 am class. Muslim Pleasure light decoration from Christian can be adopted. For Muslims Christians of Holy Prophet Jesus or Moses or Abraham are like brothers. Muslims need not be brainwashed. Muslim delight Muslim resource is source of pleasure even if it has been developed by None Muslims. Watching few weeks ago Turkish Firecracker Republic Day Celebration with Music in the likes of Burj Dubai opening ceremony firecrackers even if designed by none muslims can be adopted. If you live in Rom do as Romans did .Turkey is befitting. Other people’s grasses look greener. Turkish Coffee and Bath culture have been glamorized and commercialized by Queen Victoria’s Canada US UK with public bath Sauna bath Tim Horton Starbuck With same Dr Gulabjamun culture. Muslim has stopped taking initiative which was Muslim Delight and Muslim Culture Recreate Parallel chain to snatch back with new initiative.They have become big headed and white supremist. Islam Joy machine development is waiting. As None Turkish I admire Turkish success which is waiting to be reactivated. Even Muslim culture in Indian Lucknow Hyderabad Pakistan Arabia Iran Central Asia Indonesia Malaysia Turkey Iran Syria to North Africa and Timbuktu were delight. Redesign it rekindle Muslim Delight Muslim Pleasure. Get rid off foreign elements immature with newly found wealth needlessly mind bending Muslim delight.
 

Guest - Joker7
2010-01-04 13:38:42
  I agree with this article and spent the Halloween, Thanks Giving and Christmas in Afghanistan and there were a lot of questions and a genuine since of awe with our celebrations. If you can’t be happy at Christmas in America you probably would not be happy anywhere or anytime. You can take all of the religion, music, alcohol, ice cream and festivities out of Christmas and it is still a joyous holiday. To all of you that hate Christmas; go see a shrink or get some Prozac lighten up.
 

Guest - KOCGIRILI
2010-01-04 06:37:58
  Mr. Akyol, I salute you for enduring so many insults and attacks that you do not deserve, On the contrary you should be commended for your open and honest way of starting a discussion. Your fans from western world may not understand what brave person you are because of going after such topics considered to be taboo even in today's Turkey. I understand because I come from Turkey. When I was a young high school student living in state sponsored boarding school I went through hell once I was exposed as not being conservative religious person but as a member of Kizilbash (Alevi) faith. The year was 1972. During those times an Alevi person can not openly declare to be an Alevi in the society, schools, military, government service etc. There was undeclared common persecution on Alevis. I had to short cut my high school education, but take outside exams in order to get my high school diploma. I dont blame those who took action against me. It was state sponsored act of discrimination using followers of one faith against the other. Which is called "Deep State" as we learn now it was "Eregnekon" "Seferberlik Tetkik Kurumu" "Ozel Harp Dairesi" It is no coincidence that The Marash Massacare happend in 1973, thereafter Sivas, Malaty, Corum, Erzincan Massacres took place. The deep state made people of different faits enemy of each other. It was not realy true believers of Islam that took action agains Alevis in thesee massacres "Sunni's" as portrayed by the state. It was the state in order maintain control used one group of people against the other. The people that are attacking you are as well member of the deep state. Because they are afraid the truth. As the truth comes out their hegemony on the power will dissipate. Coming to the main subject. It is true Isalm being great religion but it is very serious and sober. There is nothing fun, no enjoyable part of it as know in the west. I know it because in order to hide my Alevi faith at times I had to realy pratice Islam praying in Mosques, fasting in Ramadan. Slaughtering a lamb in the backyard is not fun. But the "Ozel Hareket Dairesi" like it because the skin collected from those ocations are donated to the army with those incomes they finance their activities against the people that they are suppressing. However, in Anatolia there are other religions, faiths as well as an Example My Faith of Kizilbash (Alevis). There are different versions of Alevis as well. But Kizilbash (Alevis) are particular because it is mainly in Dersim and Kochgiri, Varto, Bingol. Malatya Mainly among Kurdish population. It is fun, peace loving religion. In many of its paryings there is music, singing, even dancing . All to the holy spirit. One of our greatest Saints is "Pir Sultan Abdal" he preached brotherhood of man kind while being executed in Sivas. Isn't there similarity between Jesus Christ and him. In fact our religion has great respect to all faiths that any human practices. It is because of this virtue we are not considered not to be true muslims and been persecuated and opresed by the state. Just remind you that there is a fun religion in Anatolia, but not known in the West even not to much in Turkey.
 

Guest - David
2010-01-03 08:33:57
  Wolf: If you will please, can you tell me why you are finger pointing at the 3 least tolerant Muslim Countries and correlating their societies with so called 'Christian' and democratic,rich, European Countries? Is the UK run by the Church? What about Germany? No actually, the answer is no, I'm telling you the answer in advance because I know you will struggle to answer my question truthfully, so, your-welcome. Anyhow, there are 57- Muslim-Majority countries, and I observed an unfair analogy, that is all. Anyhow, my last say on this is that, as someone has answered already, Islam is full, it no longer needs anything more then for it's adherents to understand it and practice it, not to convulse it and appease it's relentlessness peripheral adversaries. If they slash and trash it's tenants, then it will end up as frail and crumbling as Xianity.
 

Guest - Dean from Ohio
2010-01-03 06:42:14
  Here's a great short essay on the joy found in following Christ--strangely enough, from a medieval tale titled, "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight." Mr. Akyol might even one day be as "surprised by joy" as was C.S. Lewis. Here's the link to the article: http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/the-sport-of-easter-13 And here's an excerpt: Comparison with the heroes of antiquity is especially striking. For Achilles and other Homeric heroes, life affords a few passing moments during which the hero has a chance to achieve immortality. Every hero knows he will die, and soon, and knows too that the world of shades holds no attraction. If he is going to survive, he must live and die so as to achieve an eternal reputation. Man-killing Achilles, as Auden said, “will not live long,” but if he leaves mountains of corpses on the battlefield during his brief life, at least his name will endure. Similarly, the worst fate that Odysseus can imagine is death, alone, without witnesses or glory, floating on a plank of his ship in the open sea. Lives of ancient heroes were infused with a palpable anxiety that life would not provide sufficient opportunity for immortality, and this heroic mentality did not die with the last of the ancient warriors. The “cosmic resignation” (Paul Tillich) of the Stoic was ultimately a Socratic resignation before death, and the apparent joy of the Epicurean “eat, drink, and be merry” was a philosophy of life only because it was followed by “for tomorrow we die.” Ancient warrior culture is a culture built on the fear of death. In “Gawain,” by contrast, there is no fear of death, and the games, unlike the agonistic sports of the ancient heroes, are just games, without ultimate consequence. Something happened between the Iliad and “Sir Gawain,” something that left a profound mark on the Western soul, something that no amount of political or social change can account for. Somehow, sometime, a shadow lifted, and in the light of day, men and women began to play, and play joyfully, in the face of death. Somehow, somewhere, men (especially men) learned to smile and even, like Hamlet’s gravediggers, sing at the edge of their graves. This is more than a variation on Epicurean hedonism, with its frenetic efforts to cheat death. It is something new, something that allows men to admit the inevitability of death, and to relax.
 

Guest - Ameritrash
2010-01-03 06:05:35
  American culture is garbage. Christmas is in no way a religious holiday; it's just another opportunity for consumers to be browbeaten by their corporate masters. How "fun" is it to go shopping a week before Christmas? Like many aspects of life in the west, the "fun" parts are mostly just for show. Underneath it's just stressful and pointless. The bad music and movies coming out of America are not a credit to our society. "Freedom" unfortunately can mean "serving and promoting the lowest common denominator."
 

Guest - Grace Chow
2010-01-02 23:13:12
  As you label yourself @think, it seems that you have a thoughtful mind. . I am only a student and I have to learn from you. Do you see '....' ???? I do not only mean these four countrys and do you want me to list all of them????? Do you read today newspaper???. It is the second day of the new year and do you know what happened in Istanbul???? The police and the protesters clashed in the second day of new year in Istanbul. These kinds of chaos daily happen in your country now. That is the problem I want to address. Muslim countries have much more bloody wars than any other countries.The initial purpose of all the religion is to make the human being behave nice, respect and love each other. But if it goes the extreme or wrong way just like Muslim, it will cause a big trouble for all over world. Anyway, you are very smart and thanks for your commen.
 

Guest - Ward
2010-01-02 02:49:50
  You know what you all sit here and argue over another ways? I do not care if they have Christmas or not just as I donot care when they are stuoid enough to kill their own people and blame it on someone else. Every man is a god, capable of changing things for the good if they choose too? Violence, and killing is not the answer.It will be the end of man! There is no one religion, and you are killing each other over something you cannot prove.Jesus Christ was a mortal man, and if not for some morn crazed woman saying she saw him, no one can prove he rose.There were others before him that claimed to raise from the dead too.Ban religion stop fighting to make the rich, richer you fools.Try to get along, and be more understanding.Before there is nothing left good in this world! Dam Religion.
 

Guest - Zonkey
2010-01-02 01:59:11
  @Alex. Its not just the freemasons that fear Islam. You're right in one respect though and that is that it seems the tenets of Islam are unalterable. This may be a source of pride for some but for others, who are not so easily intimidated, it rates as absurd. Some try to remain indifferent but, on a crowded planet, this is becoming harder.
 

Guest - alex
2010-01-01 11:35:46
  Christoph this is for you. You just have proved to everybody that christianity has been changed so it is now a fake religion misleading its followers. As the religion of islam has never been changed and never will be is the reason behind the fact it is the fastest growing religion in the world and the freemasons fear it. Becuase they cant change it like they did with every other religion to suit their needs.
 

Guest - abs
2010-01-01 11:31:19
  Who ever reads this "hurriyet" news paper and the articles published by their idiotic journalist are being completley mis lead to whats happening in Turkey and its people. Nobody in Turkey reads their paper as they are a puppet for athiests in Turkey who want to cause religious stir in Turkey. No point wasting ur time on this idiot mustafa
 

Guest - Bokhari
2009-12-31 20:33:08
  Well, I have to agree with this article more than I would like to. After have lived in States for 13 years, there is very little I can do to have fun in Pakistan. Entertainment seems to be limited to eating out.
 

Guest - Think
2009-12-31 18:54:53
  @Grace Chow: Student of journalism thinks that "...all the Muslims countries have wars,IRAN,IRAQ,PAKISTAN,AFGHANISTAN." Is it a joke? Do you really not know any Muslim country beside these four mentioned by you? Do you really not know any Muslim country that doesnt have wars on their territory at present time? Just interesting
 

Guest - Zonkey
2009-12-31 16:13:01
  I think people have fun easiest when they shake off religion and take back a fun festival from all that Jesus rubbish. Thats what most people do in the West I think even if some wont admit it. Unfortunately my Yuletide in the West was ruined because I couldnt find any of that pervert sex promised by Vural Korkmaz. Me thinks the gentleman doth protest too much !!!
 

Guest - wolf
2009-12-31 15:37:09
  I dont think any religion is particularly fun as such, since they typically tend to restrict people. But what we can see if we compare a Christian and democratic society (e.g. Germany or UK) with countries guided by entirely Muslim beliefs and where life is carried out in accordance with Islam (e.g. Iran, Talibans, Saudi Arabia) is that in the Christian countries the religion has been put aside and people are allowed to live the life they want and seek happiness they way they want. They can have sex before they get married, drink alcohol, dont have to cover from head to toe, women are allowed to drive (!) you can critisize religion as much as you want etc etc. That is unfortunately not the case for the people living in countries guided by Islamic rules. We keep hearing that Islam is a religion of peace and love, but somewhere something obviously goes very wrong if we look at the human rights violations, how women are treated (the more Islamic the worse the women are treated it seems), corruption, how riots are breaking out because of some cartoons shown 1000s of miles away in some unknown newspaper, adultery is punished with stoning to death etc etc. All these horrible things might not come from Islam as such, but we keep hearing from some that they interprete Islam like that and use it to surpress women, non-muslims, or the entire population. So my suggestion is not that religion should be more fun, but that all religions should stop interfering with peoples' lifes and let the people who are religios do what they want, but not forcing infidels to follow ideas they do not believe in.
 

Guest - Hmmmm
2009-12-31 14:40:10
  David...you take yourself too seriously :) while Mustapha is well versed in conjuring the contentious. unlike you chaps i don't lay claim to any great wisdoms but i challenge all to step back from this abyss. it really serves nobody to fuel the religious divides except maybe those who profit from oil and arms. instead i propose we unite in realisation that in living memory people of all faiths managed to live side by side in istanbul, jerusalem, nicosia, beirut, damascus, etc. articles like these only confirm that we continue to regress both as communities and in our awareness and respect for each other.
 

Guest - David
2009-12-31 11:24:09
  Christoph, I advice you first consider a source, preferably not Fox News or Sky News, and learn the basics of Islamic traditions rather then throw a jumble of words into a comment space so as to show that you can contribute to this discussion. You may not be an expert, but still, your understanding of Islam is so off-base that you'll only sound credible if you were actually an expert. What you said is partially true, but mostly false because of obtuse parallels and preposterous claims. Back on topic. Regarding this 'joy' and 'fun', why does religion needs fun? You want laughter and joy, why not create one from Turkey's own culture and/or religion? Why should Islam modernize itself the way the west would hope to see from it? In Another word, Islam has many exemplary fascinating stories, take for example Moses/Joseph/Jacob. Why not convulse their stories into symbols and celebrate in the spirit of Islam? Why adopt the symbol of Santa Clause, the non-existent secular-made-only-for-marketing fat clown? What is fun about him? Morever, aren't innovations in Islam forbidden? Isn't it true that if you adopt the way of life of the non-Muslims then you have joined them? Here is what the depleting Kemalist and Militant Secularists who are always mad at the devout center right due to traditions must answer to, and that is why should Islam not only modernize, but assume other different traditions (Santa Clause is a traditional white fat-Albert), so they may get the solace and answer for the Europeans who continue to berate them of lacking to catch up? I say grow some pride and do what is right, though I don't trust that you will do. Western Turkey no longer has its cajones, they've surrendered it for the purpose of 'fitting in', though they will never be 'accepted in'. But hey, the last few decades have witnessed the revival of Islamic Traditionalism, If I'm you, I would not underestimate people who celebrate the 'sober, and joyless' functions.
 

Guest - Norelyn
2009-12-31 10:58:18
  Mr. Mustafa has arrived at a higher level of appreciation and understanding of various cultures and religion - that is why, he can write this article expressing his observations, insights, and discomfort at some traditional practices. Nothing wrong with this article. I would take this as an 'eye-opener' for conservative Muslims and liberal Christians. There is one certain truth, however, that we all should prepare, that is - the world is changing in many ways. Whether it is 'modernity' or 'technological innovation' - we should embrace CHANGE as it affects our lives, else, we will find ourselves in Jurassic Park and not in progressive Turkey.
 

Guest - Grace Chow
2009-12-31 03:15:25
  @ Makis,Thanks so much for your kind comment. Don't worry, I watch news every hour, every day, I am a student of journalism. Maybe you forgot one thing, all the Muslims countries have wars,IRAN,IRAQ,PAKISTAN,AFGHANISTAN.... It is an universal problem for the Muslims world. Some of them are becoming superpoor and waiting for international aid. Under such circumstance, how can they survive?????Maybe you got a good idea for these problematic Muslims countries. In that case, you should become an advisor of OBAMA government and help him to handle all the problems in Middle-East. Darling, it is you not me, should sit there and watch the news!!!!! Anyway, Happy New Year for You
 

Guest - Moe
2009-12-31 03:10:37
  It depends on your perspective of fun. If your idea of fun is drinking etc than of course Islam will seem boring. Islam does not actually prohibit many things, the general saying is anything to do with worldly matters is permissible unless explicitly forbidden in the Quran or Prophet's sayings and anything to do with matters of worship is forbidden unless explicitly allowed through the Quran or sayings of the prophet. The worst of sins in Islam is Shirk and Bidah which means adding to the religion or worshipping other than Allah such as intermediaries like idols or saints etc. This fear in a way is what makes Muslims weary if being influenced by other cultures. On a final point, living in London. This is a generalisation, I come across all types of people who have different ideas of fun. I would have to say the fun had by young Muslims who adhere to Islam and abstain from things such as drinking and pre marital sex and all the things that lead to it, have fun that is more beneficial both short and long term and a closer more sincere bond with their peers.
 

Guest - Husan
2009-12-31 00:07:43
  While I was reading the article, I remembered how the Uzbeks (which I am) during two Eids spend their time going through people who have lost their relatives, so-called "funeral repast". We should understand that these Eids should be happy holidays, people should wait for with interest and love, saying like: Ohhhh, I look forward to visiting my relatives during the Eid. I completely agree with the author. It is time for the Muslims to allow some joy, happeness, humour into their life. All right, the tradition is tradition, keep up with it. You can still laugh and make you friends laugh, practising namaz (salat) everyday. If we stay so serious, we will lose interest even in ourselves.
 

Guest - Mosh
2009-12-30 23:57:12
  The reason why Islamic holidays are not as extravagant as the Christians or the Jews is because it is to prevent such celebrations leading to innovation. What I mean by that is that celebrations should be celebrated without being influenced from cultural or non-Islamic aspects, these should be celebrated as a family together and it emphasis the meaning of it for example Eid is celebrated by visiting relatives or cooking food, being together as a family. If you look at the Christians, they are as a family but they have to lie to their kids about 'Santa Claus' some may see it as in a spirit of the holidays but it should strictly be a religious holiday, no where is Santa Claus mentioned in the bible, so why is this old man representing Christmas which they are meant to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, rather there is more emphasis on presents, Christmas tree or decorations, its all innovations nothing to do with religion, and that is why today it is more of a 'cultural holiday' instead of a religious holiday. If Islam had allowed these cultural non-Islamic traditions to exist in Eid then it will totally become a non-religious holiday, the true meaning of the holiday will disappear, further more it will decrease iman or one's faith as a Muslim, this is what Christmas has led to, many non-practising irreligious Christians by name. That is why Muslim holidays makes more sense than other religious holidays, regardless of whether it is fun or not, you have the choice to make it fun if you want without inventing silly non-religious traditions.
 

Guest - Roy
2009-12-30 20:31:40
  Yes, if ever I hit my head against the wall and wake up believing in the comical munbojumbo of religion and supernatural beings, I will opt first for Father Christmas and this philosophy. Give to others, eat, drink and be merry and a happy time to all. Can you imaging a follower of such a code cutting off the head of someone, blowing people to bits in the name of Father Christmas, or engaging in the fithy idea of 'honour killings'. The superiority of Father Christmas as a Mythalogical Being to the pathalogical beings of orthordox religioun should be obvious to the most backward pumkin that spares aminute to think about it.
 

Guest - Brian
2009-12-30 20:23:32
  I cannot understand this argument that Turkey is a muslim country so should not have the body of St. Nicholas returned. Not one person has mentioned the fact that more than likely St. Nicholas chose his place of eternal rest while he was alive. It was sacrilege in the first place to remove this man from his final resting place. I am sure if you were to ask the man himself, he would say, please place me back in the tomb I choose for myself and back in the country I died. It was a very unchristian thing to steal his body in the first place and we should respect the wishes of the dead. No country "owns" his body, it belongs to the soil or tomb it was buried in. There IS no other argument!
 

Guest - Roy
2009-12-30 19:47:49
  Yes, if ever I hit my head against the wall and wake up believing in the comical munbojumbo of religion and supernatural beings, I will opt first for Father Christmas and this philosophy. Give to others, eat, drink and be merry and a happy time to all. Can you imaging a follower of such a code cutting off the head of someone, blowing people to bits in the name of Father Christmas, or engaging in the fithy idea of 'honour killings'. The superiority of Father Christmas as a Mythalogical Being to the pathalogical beings of orthordox religioun should be obvious to the most backward pumkin that spares aminute to think about it.
 

Guest - ALBERTO CASTELLANOS
2009-12-30 19:13:32
  Mr Vural Korkmaz seems to be a very narrow minded and such an ignorant about the West ways; the West is not only sex and alcohol, as the Muslim world is not only terrorism, not only inside violence (Shia Vs Sunni) and not only the dreaded sharia; unfortunately many Muslims still think like you; I invite you to open your mind, your eyes and heart and get to know other cultures. Alberto Castellanos florida, USA
 

Guest - ALBERTO CASTELLANOS
2009-12-30 19:06:42
  to vural Korkmaz: I can see you are a very short sighted, very little familiarized respect to the West, according to your shallow comments; the West is more than alcohol, sex and rock&roll... as the Islam world is more than terrorists, more than the use of turban, more than the violence inside Muslims (Shia vs sunni) . I invite you to get out of your little mental frame and get to know the world.. alberto Castellanos
 

Guest - Christoph
2009-12-30 17:40:50
  I make no claims to be an expert on Islam, but it appears to be a Faith that prohibits it's followers from doing a lot of things. You can't do this and you can't do that! While it's true Christianity has it's prohibitions-Catholics not eating meat on friday, for example-most of that sort of stuff was tossed by the wayside long ago. Christianity had it's Reformation, Islam never did. Moslems, rightly or wrongly, are perceived as a group of people living a 15th century lifestyle in the 21st century.
 

Guest - name withheld
2009-12-30 17:30:14
  I think the problem is one of separation of church and state. The eastern countries still do not do this; the USA does guarantee freedom of religion and separation of church and state. I do wish the eastern countries would progress and learn this principle. The Christmas tree is secular. In the USA, the first amendment guarantees freedom of religion. Many cases are argued in the court of law over the use of the Christmas tree and the cross. For instance, a firehouse was permitted to display the Christmas tree, but not a cross; the tree was ruled to be a secular symbol while the cross was ruled to be a religious symbol. In an instance here, the Christian residents just decided they did not want any Christmas decorations displayed on a firehouse anyway (even if they did not cross the line between secular and religious). In the case of displaying the cross, it depends on whether it is on public or private land. Because of separation of church and state, it is forbidden to display a religious symbol on public land. In the case of our public center downtown in Chicago, it was ruled to display symbols of all religions, a cross, a crescent, and a menorah at the the holiday season as an expression of the equality of religions, and no favoritism to one over the other, as expressed under the law. I worked for a lawyer who had to answer the tree/cross question for a public client; so I researched it a little and it was very interesting. Also, the holidays are very commercial (the biggest shopping day), and have become separate from the religious context. You can enjoy your tree (Jews call it a Hanukah Bush, so I don't know, Mustafa, what Muslims would call it?); it is a secular symbol; and I do hope you enjoy your shopping, the colorful lights and good cheer; but don't forget the true meaning and happiness of the holidays is to give to those who are less fortunate (unless you might end up facing the fate of Mr. Scrooge).
 

Guest - Birol
2009-12-30 16:42:48
  I think the writer has missed the point, or it's not particularly well made. Islam does have a 'no fuss' element to it, that is similar in a way to the Calvinist or Protestant traditions. However the Islamic festivals I see are a lot of fun, sweets are shared during the festivals as people visit each other, the month of Ramadan is spent having dinner at each others homes and the Turkish people generally have a positive dispensation towards singing & dancing despite their agricultural heritage. There is however a stream of Islamic thinking that sees laughter & smiling as inherently bad. They are a minority and they see things in very basic 'good' & 'bad' categorisations. I was told by one such fellow that smiling made one look like a monkey and so it was frowned upon in his circle. I asked him whether his circle of friends frowned on Nasreddin Hoca, and he smiled and we giggled together. Maybe the true message here is one of irreverance & tolerance. Many western cultures (particulalry Anglophiles) love to laugh at themselves, and a sense of irreverance permeates their attitude towards authority. Other cultures however are far more serious, the US being one of them. Often it comes down to the individual but I don't necessarily see that Islam is incompatable with fun and laughter. I see xmas as somewhat commercialised & the real message of sharing/giving & spending time with family & friends also resonates in the Islamic traditions.
 

Guest - Cem77
2009-12-30 15:51:18
  To Funseeker: dear Funseeker if my comments were silly I would know it. I am your wrong target, because not only this article is silly, but also harebrained. My comments don't aim at praising one culture, you really haven't understood them. I gave some examples about muslim traditions that are positive, that's all. So I underlined that the author ridiculously painted a negative and false image about muslims' feasts, by describing their "lack of fun-joy" compared with christmas. And he did make the comparison. The author should remind of the ramadan, which is a period of happiness and share, which lasts nearly one month. This article eventually does not mean anything. Regards / cem77@orange.fr
 

Guest - GIORGOS K
2009-12-30 14:58:00
  A muslim is a muslim, a christian is a christian, an atheist is an atheist..etc...That simply means that i see no point of Xmas trees in Turkey when most christian churches where practically Christmas are celebrated in the christian world simply are closed without priests or christians on those days...dont misunderstand what I am saying..Its just that seeing Turkish muslims enjoying Xmass seems absolutely stupid to me...it has the same value like celebrating St Valentines Day...pure commerce and stupidity...is there any point for me as a christian to practice remadan or hanucka as well when it has nothing to do with my culture??? it would be just silly...all this Xmas obsession that i frequently see during Xmas in Istanbul is only for foreign tourists shopping malls and shop owners!!
 

Guest - Cem77
2009-12-30 14:35:12
  To Awestruck: no, the turkish kids gather candies but it has no link with Halloween, it's the turkish 'candy feast'. Regarding the eggs, I guess it's about spring. Last but not least: the ramadan. It has a powerful effect on people, and on brotherhood: Turks are very joyful, they gather with their family, with their friends, people share more with the poors.... Is this not a positive event? I'm muslim but I'm not religious. And I do like the magical atmosphere created by the ramadan, and I do like the magical atmosphere created by christmas, I also like giving and receiving gifts, I'm not prasing the commercial side of these events, nevertheless for me giving gifts is rather important. To a certain extent, it enables us to give a message of love, which is the most important. Regards, Cem / cem77@orange.fr/ My blog: http://laturquie.blog.lemonde.fr/2009/09/10/paix-dans-le-pays-paix-dans-le-monde
 

Guest - Funseeker
2009-12-30 14:23:44
  @ Cem77 - your comments proved the point of the article exactly and the comments you made were kinda silly. The article is not just about decorating something or who did what first. The article is about having fun and enjoyment. Yes children go door to door asking for candy on Şeker Bayram.. ok?? Visiting family and friends and especially the older relatives should important all the time. One culture is not better or worse than the other.. but more fun in the one lacking it might be a good thing.
 

Guest - Awestruck
2009-12-30 14:00:26
  @Cem77 Halloween? Easter? Both Western, though Halloween is not Christian.
 

Guest - Cem77
2009-12-30 12:40:05
  I've forgotten something: I've been told that we turks used to decorate a tree every year: we decorated it for instance with candies. I don't know if it is still done. But it has no link with christmas. By the way, I read an article here two days ago, it said that the christmas tree may come from a turksih tradition. Regards, cem77@orange.fr
 

Guest - Cem77
2009-12-30 12:31:16
  What a ridiculous article! I even didn't feel the need to read it completely. I never thought that such an article could have been written here. Well let's accept and enter that ridiculous subject for a few seconds: does anyone know what 'Seker bayrami' is? Children visit houses in order to gather candies. People visit each other. Another example: at a certain period of the year (I've forgotten the name of the feast), we paint eggs. Isn't this a "happy" event? Regards / cem77@orange.fr
 

Guest - AkiVee
2009-12-30 11:40:03
  Great column as excpected by Mr. Akyol. However, some notions: As Alberto mentioned, Santa Clause, X-mas trees and whatever related commercial crap have nothing to do with the Christian religion(s). They are products of the rather modern times. Sharing time with close people and giving gifts during Christmas is naturally for celebrating the birth of Jesus, who according to traditional knowledge happend to be born on 24th December - and who was celebrated by vistors bringing him gifts. However, Santa Clause is based on secular traditions. In fact, the Santa used to be a scary figure until quite recently, since he was "bringing gifts for good people and punishments for bad people" (to put it in a simpler way). Anyway, as Mr. Akyol also mentioned, the "joyfulness of Christianity" belongs to the modern times. Even when I attended the primary school in the 1970s-mid 1980s in Finland, going to church was a "serious event" and priests, religion teachers and religious people kept on threatening with hell and all bad things targeted towards disbelievers:). The "joy" was at most parallel to "fear". But, right, I agree that most of teh Turks (religious or not) "just like the lifestyle of the wealthy, happy and joyful people they see in Hollywood movies". Indeed, this is common with the Arabs as well: love for all modernity toys such as the latest mobile phones, fastest cars, shiny jewelery, internet etc etc. For some interesting reasons even the most backward Muslims seem to be trapped with the "status symbolisms" as part of their lifestyles. Why? Is it because practising religion is too boring?
 

Guest - 7 Hills
2009-12-30 11:20:07
  Bravo MUSTAFA AKYOL... someone has finally said. outloud and even printed, what I have been saying for so long about this culture. I don't know if it stems from the religion or the people/culture. There seems to be a lack of celebrations.. or atleast very few. Yes there are many reasons to celebrate.. just living another day is a good reason. This melancholic or pessimistic outlook on life might be a reason for the lack of celebrations, festivals, reasons to celebrate. Come on my Turkish friends.. you have a beautiful country.. and many reasons to celebrate.. Live life.. and celebrate and let others live and celebrate.. Life is really worth living.. it does not always have to be so solemn.. You have made it to the 21st century.. celebrate that.. and live like you are here.. Peace to all..and a happy joyous new year to you all.. friends and foes..
 

Guest - katie
2009-12-30 11:16:11
  It's a fundamental difference, Christianity is founded on love & charity. Islam is founded on...... a demanding being, without humour. Islam has an intensity which cannot be scrutinised , laughed at or questioned. Such a pity, you miss out on the joy of living !
 

Guest - Makis
2009-12-30 10:11:57
  @grace chow, do you watch the news dear? does it look like Muslims have not survived into the C21st? really? com'on...
 

Guest - Takashi
2009-12-30 10:07:44
  I would love to hear what you suggest as fun Muslim activities Mr. Akyol? I am not being sarcastic, i think your piece is brilliant just wondering the practicality of it all. Osu.
 

Guest - wolf
2009-12-30 09:38:31
  Interesting article. I think the pressure many parts of the society puts on women partly contribute to this. Although we dont need more luxary (I think people in Turkey love luxary and glamour more than any Europeans), some more estetics or at least cleaner buildings, roads without holes, less garbage on the streets etc would be good first step.
 

Guest - disquietude
2009-12-30 09:14:26
  where there is competition, the consumers win. The same applies to the religious markets. In TR, where 99% of the population is assumed to be joined under the banner of a single religion, competition is not that easy. We got the Alevis, who religion involves songs, and other fun rituals, but they are not all that "in" right now... so we'll skip that market... and then we have several tarikats under the Sunni banner... of course, they are not legit but they exist. Some of them I assume are very fun, so many people wouldnt join them unless there were some positive benefits delivered, right?. Plus who says fun has to come in a Santa hat, and a big belly? Yoga can be fun for some, or chanting for another, or donning the turban can be a pleasant activity for another, i.e. AyseKarman, no? Decorating the xmas tree is fun, of course, if you can get a real big douglas fir by the fireplace, have ornaments with years of traditions, and kids running around. We can be happy with our traditions, may be they have not made it to the hollywood movies yet, but we all know the taste of a good cup'a tea and simit can be worth millions when you are far away. Happiness is what we make of it, and whether or not we can see what we have...and for our children... i say let them enjoy the dreidel games, dance to the hora, wake up to xmas carols, learn to kiss the hands of the elders to get the gold coins, pray to the saints in times of trouble, send prayers from the turbes, enjoy the taste of fresh meat during eid al adna and the desserts during eid al fitr, the stories about stories... whatever it is that gives them comfort...more fun is always good, whether it is under "religion" or "optimism"...
 

Guest - ALBERTO CASTELLANOS
2009-12-30 08:31:24
  Mr Akyol is highly accurate about the differences in our religions, but: _we DON'T believe in Santa Claus, Papa Noel, San nicolas or Noel Baba. He is just a part a folklore personality for Christmas in the West, some like it, some don't. -the biggest difference in Muslim -Christian lies in the tradition. in our culture we sing and have light music for Christmas and all the ceremonies, and that keeps the believers in high spirits; the Muslim ceremonies are boring and the believers ignore the power of the music to keep people together in love and in friendship. I invite to try that; even Erdogan would enjoy it!. Alberto Castellanos Florida, USA
 

Guest - Iqbal Hashimi
2009-12-30 07:55:29
  What on earth is wrong with Hurriyet news. Are they the mouthpiece of Zionism? Maybe the pseudo-Islamic writer of this article does not know his own religion. It's not Muslims to blame that this write is not having fun, its his inability to grasp the essence of this own culture, or would I say lack thereof. I am sorry, Turkey does not represent Islam in any way or from. If Santa is so fun, then why does the author not convert to Christianity, or Judaism (wait... you cannot convert to Judaism).
 

Guest - Vural Korkmaz
2009-12-30 07:44:27
  "The Western way is full of laughter and joy." That is oxymoron Mustafa Akyol. There is no "laughter and joy in the Western way" in reality. "The Western way of laughter and joy" by and large is based on narcotics, alcohol, other mind altering drugs like nicotine and pervert sex. Do not advise anybody to convert to "the Western way." Beside insulting Ataturk and the other institutions of the democratic Republic of Turkiye, now you are advocating the superiority of "the Western way." I do not like the Islamist, Jihadist mindset. But I do not see any "laughter and joy" in "the Western way" either. Why don't you quit writing at Hurriyet and take up a janitorial job. You would be more productive, and less destructful.
 

Guest - ethan
2009-12-30 05:30:49
  nifty work mr akyol!!! well-put. many traditions of fun and games in christianity is indeed rooted in pagan habits..i.e. the hallow eve, halloween... the celebration of fall... remembering the dead... all souls...catholic church does not always condone those traditions, but there is no harm in giving out candy --generates work for dentists-- and dressing up --facilitates economy-- and gives us all a day to be funky!!!! similar traditions are bountiful in and all around turkey as well, such as hidirellez... how related they are to islam, is well-open to discussion... they probably preceed islam, and are transformed through islamic traditions... we can islamize anything we want in any way we please. so celebrating new year, is actually not all that "modern", not a sign of modernity neither. Oddly many families in the US do not care much about the new year, just an occasion for the youth to party, that is all. people at my age, mid-40s, with families, take it as any other night. i must disagree with you on agricultural societies though. Growing up on a farm myself, we had many opportunities to feel the strength of community and get together, dance, sing, drink... enjoy the seasons... the fall.. the harvest... yes, may be we did not have platinum level on our frequent flier programs but we had prayers for wisdom, love, and yes, rain or snowfall....again, it all starts within the person and the environment...yes, more fun, more smiles, more teachings about how loving and forgiving god is will help us all. Is the Sufi traditions, Rumi's words, also suggest the same?
 

Guest - dr p
2009-12-30 05:19:21
  dear mr akyol: your thesis fails to hold water, as observant jews are a fundamentally eastern and pre-modern group. having observed some of their home religious observances and having jewish colleagues describe them to me, i conclude that the joy and laughter surrounding many of their festivals is part and parcel of their religion and ethos; other protestant observers have concluded likewise. the vast number of comedians and humourists of jewish origin attest to this as well. joy and laughter are refractory to fiat and manufacture, so, despite you being a modern sort of chap, you may wish to consider something other than the pre-modern agrarian canard as aetiologic to your doldrums.
 

Guest - Grace Chow
2009-12-30 03:47:03
  Anoteher sad thing among Muslims young generation is that they couldn't decide their life. They lead the life which their parents plan for them. The worst thing is they have to marry with people whom their parents choose for them. For young Muslims, life is not on their own hands. Especially I find some young Muslims are quite weak and closed, they act as the puppet of their parents and don't have any sense about their own life.This old-fashinion lifestyle has to be changed. If not, I can't see any lights for Muslims standing out in the global world.
 

Guest - Grace Chow
2009-12-30 01:17:41
  I can't agree with you more. It would be unwise for Muslims to isolate from modernity. Some valuable cultural tradition must be kept and redeveloped but not all of them. Meanwhile some tradition is rooted in the agricultural society which has to be refreshed and put some new blood in modern commercialized society. It is understandable that Muslims don't need fully accept and copy the western self-centered life style, but for good one, why not take it?? Life is short, why not get some fun and make life easier?? If Muslims still keep useless tradtition, old lifestyle and close themselves from outside world, they can't suvive in this competitive modernized world.
 

Guest - James Hovland
2009-12-30 00:37:19
  When the man says: Let have a party. Don't wait for him to say it again, just start putting up decorations, and invite your freinds. Sounds like the party is at Mustafa's house. Celebrate life, and the party never ends.
 

Guest - khalid
2009-12-30 00:36:22
  Maybe if Ataturk implemented these kind of Islamic reforms, ie bringing Islamic traditions to the modern fold, he would have done a greater service to Turkey and the region, better than those silly hats and radical form of nationalism mantras.
 

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