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• MUSTAFA AKYOL
Thursday, July 29 2010 19:36 GMT+2
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Why is it so easy to insult Atatürk?

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Mustafa AKYOL

If you want to see something truly amazing about Turkey these days, take a look at the recent “insulting Atatürk” case opened against Can Dündar.

Mr. Dündar is a renowned public intellectual. He writes a column for the daily Milliyet, an established center-left paper, and hosts a TV show on NTV, a centrist news channel. He is a secular democrat and is certainly among the admirers of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the godfather of Turkey’s secularism.

Several years ago Dündar had made a documentary about Atatürk named “Sarı Zeybek.” All the Kemalists loved it, for it was a very emotional tribute to the Supreme Leader. The film was presented to students in schools across the country, and Dündar received praise from all over.

Those adorable fingers

Enthused by his previous success, Dündar decided to launch another Atatürk documentary two years ago. The Office of the Chief of General Staff, which welcomed the idea, opened its private archives exclusively to Dündar’s service, and the latter worked meticulously to access little-known facts about the national hero. “I want to find the real Atatürk,” he once said in an interview. “I want to show the human being there.”

Ah, he should have known better. When he launched his documentary, “Mustafa,” a year ago, he faced harsh criticism that he did not expect. Soon, one of the critics, Ali Berham Şahbudak, head of a Kemalist nongovernmental organization, took Mr. Dündar to court for “insulting Atatürk,” a serious crime in Turkey. The documentary, Mr. Şahbudak argued, was “eroding the respectability of Atatürk, thus weakening national values, and therefore opening the way to Turkey’s destruction.”

The court first dismissed the charges. But then a higher court, the one in Sincan, Ankara, intervened and opened the way for Dündar’s trial. Now, Mr. Dündar is likely to be tried, and his penalty could be as harsh as seven years in prison.

But what in the world is it in this film that is so “insulting”?

Well, we got the answer from the “expert witness” the prosecutors called to the stand: Professor Ahmet Mumcu of Başkent Law Faculty, another passionate Kemalist. He soon submitted a report about the film to court, which is a must-read.

Let me give you at least a few highlights:

- Dündar’s film mentioned an affair the young Kemal had with a certain Madame Corinna, and said, “Mustafa spent that night in her arms.” This was, according to Mumcu, a cherry-picked note to show the Supreme Leader as an immoral person.

- Dündar’s film mentioned that the young Kemal “got to know women and alcohol in his war academy years.” Professor Mumcu finds this offensive, too. “Why are these themes mentioned,” he asks in his report, “and not Atatürk’s love for books and his brilliant skills in French?”

- The film noted that the young Kemal felt “alone and melancholic” in his days in Sofia, where he went as a military attaché on the eve of the Great War. “How could such a huge charisma feel alone,” Professor Mumcu objects, and finds yet another insult to the Supreme Leader.

- The film also said, “Mustafa could not sleep in the dark.” This, as you can guess, is another offence according to Professor Mumcu. “With this,” he writes, “Atatürk is depicted as a cowardly commander.”

There are many other details of the film, which are just facts about Atatürk’s life, that Professor Mumcu considers as insults in his report. I will give you just one more of his points, which is a real gem. He writes:

“In the scene in which Atatürk’s handwriting was animated, the hand that held the pen had no resemblance to Atatürk’s. He had long and elegant hands, but the fingers in the scene are thick and short.”

Really… I am not kidding, exaggerating or mistranslating … Our official expert witness, in all seriousness, believes that Atatürk is insulted because those lovely fingers of him were not adequately represented in front of the camera.

Bordering on insanity

If you are a foreigner, you might find all this hard to believe. But for us Turks, this is business as usual. It is just a part of our national insanity.

We all grow up by taking oaths of allegiance to the persona of Atatürk. We all start every school week by thanking the Supreme Leader for “giving us this day.” In classes, we are taught that every single thing he did was absolutely right. Our sole mission, we are told, is to fight for his goals and against his “internal and external enemies.” We visit Atatürk’s shrine in drones, and ask for his help and guidance. “Let us go into that grave,” some of us even recite the famous poem, “and you, Father, please get up [to save the nation]!”

We, in other words, live in one of the world’s last remaining regimes based on a cult of personality. It is outdone only by North Korea.

Here lies the answer to the question in my headline. It is so easy to “insult” Atatürk, because we have turned him into a supra-human figure with a spotless beauty, wisdom and virtue. (And don’t forget his adorable fingers.)

To “insult” him, therefore, all you need to do is to show the real, human Atatürk, who was a great man with a great many failings and mistakes.


 

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Guest - vural korkmaz
2010-01-10 09:45:03
  Mustafa Akyol is an anti-Ataturk, anti-Turkish hate monger
 

Guest - Vural Korkmaz
2009-12-30 20:39:46
  Birol: If freedom of speech is understtod as freedom of insult, if constitutional freedoms are understood as freedom to murder innocent human beings and destroy the country, we have something very serious in hand. It is to be, or not to be.
 

Guest - Vural Korkmaz
2009-12-30 20:26:43
  Birol: It is a matter of self-defense basically. Self-defense is the most basic human right. If you do not defend yourself, terrorists (maxist, lennist, communist PKK terrorists, Islamist terrorists, etc) will kill you, your wife, your children, wipe you off of the face of the Earth and impose their way of life. That is what they are out there for. It is to be, or not to be. If Islamist terrorists have a chance, they will set up Islamist Law (Sharia) in the country, destroy your place of worship, and wipe out everybody else. If PKK terrorists have chance, they will sep up a communist, marxist, lennist PKK terrorist dictatorship, destroy your place of worship, and wipe out everybody else including Islamists terrorists. It is wild, wild world of terrorism. You cannot stop violence with out violence. Hitler was stopped by bombs from flying fortresses, not coffee and cake.
 

Guest - Birol
2009-12-30 17:03:32
  Regarding Vural Korkmaz's comments, I would question why he is advocating a heavy handed attitude towards educating those who would seek to question Turkish institutions. Freedom of speach is a fundamental value in the west, however this needs to be done without inciting hatred. That would be the only caveat I would place on freedome of speach. An insult is very subjective. A phrase or word could be insulting to one group of people and not be an insult to others. It will depend upon cultural factors. It may also depend on ones political outlook and clearly there is room for an 'over reaction' when such laws are left to fester. There is a strong anti muslim sentiment in the west, and this may well be understandable based on recent events. However the west needs to weigh up whether the democratic values and liberties that have been carved out over 300 plus years are worth giving away as a result of recent tragedies. In my mind, the west has a lot to lose if it proceeds down a path of curtailing individual rights and freedoms in a bid to curb extremism. The cost is too high. That is how freedom of expression is viewed in the west. They too have fought for it, blood has been spilt and many, many lives lost. In some respects, Turkey is seeking to achieve this in a much shorter time frame and responses such as those expressed above are understandable, though not ultimately helpful.
 

Guest - Vural Korkmaz
2009-12-30 06:06:14
  Birol says: "As the 17th largest economy in the world, Turkey is becoming an economic powerhouse. It's influence reaches far beyond the region, and it must move to bring its laws into line with the more liberal democracies that it seeks to join." That may sound like fine and dandy. But the Turkish reality is different. If freedom of speech is understood as freedom of insult (like Mustafa Akyol, PKK, Armenian ASALA, and others do) bringing laws into line with the more liberal democracies is a future milestone. That kind of "more liberal democracy" would only bring disaster and an end to the country. Until then a very serious and heavy-duty education is in the orders for those to learn respect to country's institutions, basic human rights and freedoms, and what basic human rights and freedoms are and what basic human rights and freedoms are not. Almost all European countries used to criticize Turkish government attitude toward Moslem extremists in Turkiye until 9/11 massacres by Moslem extremists. Now, one by one all European countries are implementing very similar measures in their own countries to defend themselves against the harms by the Moslem extremists.
 

Guest - Birol
2009-12-29 16:05:17
  I must confess that this law does not rest well with me on a number of fronts. In addition, I very much doubt that Ataturk himself would have been so accepting of his 'deity' status, which also causes me to cringe. He is a much admired figure internationally and his legacy is being tarnished by such laws and the preachings of the Turkish state on this matter. As these such programs are made, people look upon such characters with a greater fondness, as they can see in them the many flaws and grievances that are inherent in many of us. Laws aimed at protecting Turkishness or preventing the insulting of Ataturk have the opposite effect. In addition, they can be used to stifle freedom of speech & to curtail individual liberties. As the 17th largest economy in the world, Turkey is becoming an economic powerhouse. It's influence reaches far beyond the region, and it must move to bring its laws into line with the more liberal democracies that it seeks to join.
 

Guest - Vural Korkmaz
2009-12-27 23:10:16
  To Khalid: You may have always thought there was something that united Syria, Iraq and all the way to Tabriz and Yozgat, or even the entire Arab World. If you are talking about Islam, you are wrong. Islam was never the glue that united any of the peoples you mention, together. They were always at each other's throats. If you do not know that, you need to learn history. Islam, on the other hand, made the whole World enemy to Turks. Islam was never used a tool of peace and justice. Islam was always used as a tool for conquest, looting, and plundering. Mustafa Kemal and Turks knew that well. Turks were just sick and tired of Jihad (conquering, looting, and plundering) for Islam which was not even their religion and benefits of which always went to Ottoman Sultan (all 36 of them) who was not a Turk but a child of a concubine of Non-Turkish race (not even Moslem) of his Sultan father, and Sultan's janissaries who were abducted from the families of Sultan's Non-Turkish, Christian subjects at young ages by force. The Christian West did similar, very bad things to each other and non-Christians using Christianity as a tool. But at the end they went through a period of enlightenment and tried to correct their mistakes. They successful to a certain degree. The Christian West's enlightenment process is still going on; and will go on for a foreseeable future. But Islam and Moslems have not started such a self-correcting (enlightenment, renaissance and reforms) process yet. Therefore, if and only if Islam and Moslems go through such a self-correcting process and democratize themselves and Islam, things would change. Ataturk used to say: The citizens of the World should be educated to be free from greed, jealousy and hatred against fellow human beings unconditionally regardless of race, religion, language, culture, etc. That is the only way peace at home and throughout the World can be achieved." Please remember Arabs, who supposedly were the brothers of Turks in Islam, raped, tortured and massacred Turks and forced them out of their homes and countries in order to topple Ottoman Sultan, supposedly their Khalif in Islam.
 

Guest - Mehmet Ali
2009-12-26 13:07:54
  I have always wondered why pictures and statutes of Atatürk seems to have to be everywhere in Turkey and this article would just suggest that people always suffer when people try to replace truth by ideology. Once I read a cookbook in German published by a Turkish editior who wanted to introduce Germans to the great Turkish cuisine. And you know what? There was a long article on Atatürk explaining how he really is the best cook in the world! This is just so ridiculous... The communists needed their great leaders depicted on every single wall, in Syria it is Assad instead of Atatürk, in Iran it is Chomeini, and you can be pretty sure that these omnipresent pictures are a good indicator for a deplorable lack of freedom. It is little more than a pseudo-secularized form of idolatry.
 

Guest - carnan
2009-12-24 23:06:35
  I read all comments about Ataturk and every comments shows us how he is great leader and guıdance for turkısh people.but we should not forget the truth he shows us the modernation not to think him totaliter leader .We just only follow his ideas not act a dictator....
 

Guest - ali
2009-12-24 22:21:16
  Atatürk did not accept to be caliph, he also did not accept to be a Sultan, he only chose to be a servant to his people. This shows how human he was. He is neither a divine person nor a lay man for us. There is no need in explaining what he did for his people, but sure he did not like Sultan lovers, religious sheikhs and other outdated institutions. He won the battles against imperialism, he changed the course of the history both for Turks and other agrieved nations. This also explains why many people do not like him, like Mustafa Akyol and Prof Mumcu as well. People who cannot understand him are the ones who do not want to understand him, but gaining something from his fame and popularity. I should say to our foreign friends that there are many many people in Turkey that do not like Ataturk. May be this is because this protection law was enacted, but it seems it is also outdated.
 

Guest - Observer
2009-12-24 17:42:40
  Richard said: Thank you Brian! You are great too. Only great people can appreciate greatness. Yes, Mr Aykol needto complete his education. It is never too late to learn. Happy holydays!! Before making any insinuations about Mr. Akyol's lack of education, sashay to the nearest ESL course and get acquainted with spelling and grammar. needS to, not needto holidays, not holydays Cheers!
 

Guest - Mariner
2009-12-24 17:22:25
  I think if you are swearing at or belittleing Atatürk, its fine. It hurts me more when someone says: ''I think he was pretty good.'' Or when someone says: ''he did ok.'' Thats insulting Atatürk. I think Can Dündar made the best movie about Atatürk's life so far. He has my respects...
 

Guest - Sumru
2009-12-24 16:31:02
  When I was growing up in Ankara in late 80s, our knowledge of Turkish modern history was very limited, the same goes for MK's life and accomplishments. I was most impressed when i saw the variety and depth of analysis completed on the US presidents. For that matter I see it as a step forward that we are re-writing history. Now, whether we all like the results and to step out of our comfort zones is another story. Cherry-picking what is pleasant is always easier. When all is set and done though, history judges great man against their successes and failures and their level of selfishness. MK did not try to build a dynasty, for early 1920s, that is pretty successful i'd say.
 

Guest - wolf
2009-12-24 15:13:09
  The film Mustafa I think was realy boring. I mean, we are talking about one of the most interesting persons of his time, conducting some very remarkable changes in a war torn country, so there should have so many interesting things to make a film about from Atatürk's life. But the film is just sentimental rubbish, almost an achievment to be able to make such a boring film from such an interesting life. But the quotiation about Atatürks fingers was just too much. Almost like a joke. “In the scene in which Atatürk’s handwriting was animated, the hand that held the pen had no resemblance to Atatürk’s. He had long and elegant hands, but the fingers in the scene are thick and short.” How can a court expert write something like this in an official document dealt with in a court?
 

Guest - Steve
2009-12-24 12:39:11
  I have been lucky enough to live in Turkey now for over eight and a half years and I can honestly say I and most of my non Turkish friends have taken the time to read and understand Turkish history, so when I say that if the great man was still alive I wonder what he would think of these people such as Professor Mumcu. I think the Professor is insulting peoples inteligence, has he never in his life felt alone and melancholic or does he really think any Turkish person would question when watching a film the size or length of Mr Atatürks fingers! İf anything the Professor is insulting Mr Ataturk in the stupid and childish comments regarding a tribute written about the great man.
 

Guest - suleyman
2009-12-24 12:37:42
  He was certainly one of the most admired around the world, and we should never forget, what he accomplished, in very tough times, in forming the republic. We should embrace and teach our children of the sacrifices that all our great grandfathers did to give us this country as our homeland. Ataturk would be more pleased, if we just left him alone and let him rest in peace, no man or woman would contunially want to be remembered by having there photos, statues all over the country. Lets still have these, but maybe not as many. We also have other great people in arts, history and politics, and lets start by also honoring these people with public stature. And that is exactly the way our great leader would appreciate things.
 

Guest - sailor
2009-12-24 10:43:11
  The secularist establishment in Turkey develops an over-protective and reactionary sensitivity to defend the "cult of Ataturk" from its "internal enemies" once every ten years. To the establishment, Ataturk is Turkey's "American Dream": He embodies the idea and set of ideals that keep the country united. So, any offense to this idolized figure appears as an attack to the very foundation of the establishment. Most of the time they are more interested in the persons and motives behind these offenses rather than "offenses" such as the depiction of Ataturk's fingers, themselves. More than often, these offenses come from people who are motivated by the idea of attacking Ataturk for the sake of attacking him, as they see his strictly secular and western teachings villainous. On the other hand, this case became controversial, because nobody has had any doubts about Can Dundar's pro-Ataturk credentials. All this controversy seems so silly to a typical Westerner, but this is not an isolated case, it is about changing the whole system of values in Turkey. What will you value the most once you push secularism down to the bottom of your priority list? What are you going to replace it with? With moderate Islamic values? With the "democracy" which is shaped and limited by governing party's perspective about it? (And today's governing party was just seeing it as a "means" to the end just 10 years ago). Secular and western people of Turkey have a lot fears todays. Are we all paranoiacs? I got educated in very liberal schools and received my higher education in the US. Am I brainwashed by the establishment because I am thinking this way? I don't think so. Westerners should think twice when they pick their side and friends in Turkey!
 

Guest - Brian
2009-12-24 10:08:24
  Thanks for the compliment Richard! I am humbled! And 7 Hills you may be right when you ask the question wondering if Mr. Ataturk would appreciate his face and image on every street corner and in every office building. Maybe he would not like it so much. But there is one important difference here. In many countries, North Korea for example, people are forced to love their leader and have images of him everywhere. They most likely hate him but if they show this they will be in prison or worse. These leaders are not democratic, but despots and power hungry maniacs. But...in Turkey Ataturk is truly loved. No-one is forced to admire him, no-one is forced to sing his praises. I personally am a bit jealous that we in Ireland don't show this love for our heroes as much. Ataturk is a part of the Turkish nation, his ideals are in the blood and hearts of it's citizens.
 

Guest - David
2009-12-24 08:19:27
  No wonder part of Turkey is still in the 1920's. Why must a citizen follow a human so divinely? The one's who worship are who you call fervent Kemalists, they will kill you if you insult this man. And that is a shame, because they constitute a significant other in Turkey. And its a shame and simply too medieval for Turks to idolize Ataturk fierily. The man is not a savior, he's not a Jesus and not a Mohammed. Heck, he's not even above Admiral Mullen. Unless this Kemalist cult is outdone and swept under a rock, Turkey will continue to be held back by them. It's now guaranteed that I will not have my say via this comment.
 

Guest - Chris
2009-12-24 07:54:14
  Sorry Burak, but the Muslim nut case is dead on this week. The mindless love of Ataturk is theatre at its worst - and a perfect symbol of what is all wrong with Turkey at the other extreme. If you all could just understand there is a center in there. The left and right are so far apart it is hard to beieve you all started out as children in the same hospital.
 

Guest - ed hall
2009-12-24 06:51:35
  You fail to mention the more obvious personality cult - that of the islamic "prophet" Mohammed that the cult of Ataturk was intended to displace.
 

Guest - ed hall
2009-12-24 06:51:07
  You fail to mention the more obvious personality cult - that of the islamic "prophet" Mohammed that the cult of Ataturk was intended to displace.
 

Guest - Jose
2009-12-24 02:29:43
  Mr Akyol, an excellent piece. It takes such courage to express what you have said when we know that other writers who have even gone near to remotely glorifying Ataturk as one Taraf writer did recently have recieved death threats from furious and enraged Kemalists. Kemalists need to understand that diversity is a beautiful thing. That in addition to the Ataturk-worshipping, Islam-hating secular Kemalist there are others in Anatolia who are just as equally entitled to this beautiful land, such as the Christians, the conservative Anatolian majority, the Kurds and others. Mr Akyol your article here will stick in my mind look the image of the Chinese demonstrator in Tianemen square against an army tank. Despite the Kemalist threat to pro-democratic writers you have shown courage in merely expressing that Ataturk was not a divine human being who should be unquestioningly worshipped and revered, and a state-enforced cult should revolve around him.
 

Guest - Richard Murphy
2009-12-23 23:24:51
  Thank you Brian! You are great too. Only great people can appreciate greatness. Yes, Mr Aykol needto complete his education. It is never too late to learn. Happy holydays!!
 

Guest - 7 Hills
2009-12-23 19:49:59
  I also agree that Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was a good leader and he did a great deal of positive things for Turkey but I also wonder what Mustafa Kemal Atatürk would say to Professor Ahmet Mumcu of Başkent Law Faculty. I wonder if Mr. Atatürk would appreciate his face everywhere, and so many statues of himself in so many places.
 

Guest - Omar
2009-12-23 19:06:37
  What must be truly insulting, to the man Kemal Ataturk, is the inane cult of him. Surely a man of his persona and stature would be offended and disgusted by this kind of boot licking, which can be pleasing only to the likes of Mussolini or Hitler. Free Turks should be ashamed to join in this degrading spectacle.
 

Guest - Vural Korkmaz
2009-12-23 18:54:24
  "Mr.Korkmaz does not seem to understand that after 600 years of Ottoman empire 99% of todays Turks are all descendants of the ottomans.Otherwise where do we come from?The moon?" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ottoman dynasty established itself by destroying all Turkish principalities, states and chiefdoms small and large by very bloody wars. Ottoman dynasty never employed anybody as its employees of any level, governors, mayors, police, government ministers, etc. Turks under Ottoman rule were kept as the most ignorant, poorest, far away from Ottoman ruling establishment. Nobody In Ottmanian claimed him/herself as "Turks" because being a Turk in Ottomania was a person of the lowest social status. Ottomans (sultan and his administration which was made up of devshirme) feared that if Turks gained any power or influence, they would rebel and take over the Ottoman rule. Nevertheless that is what happened in 1923. So who insults Ataturk in Turkiye. The descendants of Ottoman devshirmes and religious elite insult Ataturk and its monumental achievement, the democratic Republic of Turkiye, today in Turkiye.
 

Guest - from Ukraine
2009-12-23 18:51:36
  Applauds to the article, and the movie too (watched Mustafa). And surely to Ataturk - trully amazing person, very fond and inspired by his life, thoughts, and deeds. Wonder - what's the harm of "wrong-pictured fingers" to national development? what's the harm of mentioning a night with Mdm Corinna? (after all, with so many adopted kids, he's an excellent role model for many men in any case). Ataturk's greater accomplishments form his contribution and establish his reputation, rather than such minor details. If some people prefer to concentrate on the latter, do they clearly see the greater picture? I wish my children to be raised in open debates, through which they come to their own understanding of Ataturk's greatness (and maybe follow some wisdom of his), than just through imposed opinion from aside. Isn't this the progress in the country, for which Ataturk put his life?
 

Guest - Christoph
2009-12-23 18:30:28
  The cult of Ataturk is totally incomprehensible to westerners. It smacks of the Mao cult in China back in the 1960's. No political or historical figure should be above criticism in an enlightened nation. Those using the law to prevent criticism of Ataturk have their own agenda-to maintain power. It's time to end this ridiculous prohibition and allow free speech on this item.
 

Guest - So, just to summarize:
2009-12-23 18:30:10
  We wouldn't even be a nation if not for the Supreme Leader, so if we want to go ahead and keep adding to his Personality Cult, it is our right to do so. No measure in protecting his 'legacy' can be deemed too insane or over the top.
 

Guest - Harry Foundalis
2009-12-23 17:25:16
  Dear Mr. Akyol, you wrote: “We, in other words, live in one of the world’s last remaining regimes based on a cult of personality”, and you mean the personality of Atatürk. But suppose you were living in an Islamic State. Wouldn’t you then also be living in a regime based on a cult of personality, specifically that of Muhammad? How is Atatürk’s cult different from Muhammad’s cult? Muhammad was a human with many personality defects, wasn’t he? Didn’t he torture people, according to your holy Islamic documents? For example, didn’t he disembowel and behead his critics (Bukhari:V4B52N270-271, in conjunction with Tabari 7:94 and Ishaq:368), didn’t he burn them alive (Tabari 8:122 and Ishaq:515), didn’t he kill at least one woman while she was asleep and suckling a baby (Ishaq:676), didn’t he amputate the hands and feet of thieves and left them to die of hemorrhage (Bukhari:V4B52N261), didn’t he commit numerous other atrocities which are proudly narrated in ancient Islamic texts? Didn’t you personally deny the truth of just those Islamic passages that bother you, just as Prof. Mumcu would deny Atatürk’s personality shortcomings? Don’t you feel insulted for Muhammad just as Prof. Mumcu feels insulted for Atatürk? How is Muhammad’s cult different from Atatürk’s cult? Yes, I know, you call the former a religion, whereas you call the latter a semi-official Turkish State-sponsored “religion”. But, given the incidents of the Danish cartoons, and the earlier Salman Rushdi’s “satanic verses”, I would like to ask you: “Why is it so easy to insult Muhammad?” Paraphrasing your last lines, I might surmise: “It is so easy to ‘insult’ Muhammad, because you have turned him into a supra-human figure with a spotless beauty, wisdom and virtue.” Am I wrong? [Now let’s see if *this* comment is “in violation of Turkish press law.” I believe it’s not. It also includes no “hate speech, libel and gratuitous insults” — dear editors — since all I do is that I make references to ancient Islamic hadiths, and all you have to do is just read them.]
 

Guest - Robert Ellis
2009-12-23 17:14:21
  Bang on, Mustafa!
 

Guest - Demir
2009-12-23 17:14:02
  Mr. Akyol can you actually hit kemalists and Kemalism with something a little stronger next time you try? I mean, dragging this Mumcu out as if he somehow represents the views and sensibilities of all secular-minded Turks who still see in Ataturk an inspiration is laughable and truly only believable to foreigners. But I guess you will happily go to any lenghts to further the cause of your 'moderate' islamic-liberal-democracy, right? I thought you were much better when you were indulging in your deams of a Turkey break-up ala Yugoslavia. You had some people salavating at this prospect very publicly.
 

Guest - nuri
2009-12-23 16:27:20
  Unfortunately; Ataturk, like any other subjects in Turkey, is not being taught accurately to the citizens of the country. Anything presented by the Official State perspective has to be accepted as a fact, without a challenge and debate ! It hurts us to learn our history more accurately from the foreign sources. What ever information about Ataturk made public by Mr.Dundar has been supported by the credible references. And most of it- and more unknown- can be read from "The Immortal Ataturk, a Psychobiography, V.Volkan/N.Itzowitz". Learning more about him ,makes him more human being and makes us understand him better.
 

Guest - wolf
2009-12-23 15:31:29
  I have seen the movie Mustafa. I got curious after the debates. I did not find it the slightest insulting. Just really really bad and rediculously sentimental.
 

Guest - Brian
2009-12-23 14:53:17
  I saw the movie. It was excellent and really told the story of a great man. I am a great admirer of Ataturk. He was alive at the time of another great man Michael Collins in Ireland when both Turkey and ourselves in Ireland were fighting against foreign occupation. Unfortunately our Mr. Collins was assassinated during the civil war period after independence. My own teacher in Dublin when I was a child had a personal admiration for Ataturk and though unusual in the Irish junior education system we learned a lot about Ataturk. He spoke of him along with Michael Collins as two great men in history. Why is he almost a god? Because he took Turkey in a new direction, modernised the country and giving equal rights to female citizens. If he was alive today however he might not be so happy with the progress made generally in gender equality but he did make a good start and I am sure the efforts will continue though unfortunately it is very slow. If it was not for Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, Turkey would not be the country it is today, in fact it might not have been a country at all. He deserves the respect, but was human, just like the rest of us. Nobody is perfect and this case does seem extreme. So, on another rare occasion I agree (partly) with Mr. Aykol. This movie made him more human, and this for me portrays him as an even better leader! It would be easy for a fictional comic book superhero to change a country for the good, as he or she is perfect and can do nothing wrong. It is a MUCH more difficult job for an normal human being with frailties and self doubt to achieve the same things that Ataturk did. So, I say bravo to one of the greatest men in European history. However, I feel there is a subtext to Mr. Aykols' article. I don't believe he is such a great fan of Ataturk, but he should remember, it is because of him that he was born in a country that gave him the education to write his article, and it because of him that there exists a newspaper like the Hurriyet that allows him to express his opinion though it may not be the same opinion as other contributors. I just hope this freedom continues or perhaps Mr Aykol will become just another of those journalists who follow the crowd and all give the same pro government story. His article would be lost if written in a newspaper like Zaman, as all the contributors say exactly the same thing and rarely disagree with each other.
 

Guest - Been There
2009-12-23 14:24:57
  I thnik it is more insulting to the memory of Kemal Ataturk to try and suppress these facts about his life. There is no question that he was an exceptional individual, a man who rose above his circumstances to accomplish great things - but he, like other great historical figures ranging from Alexander the Great to Thomas Jefferson to Mohandas Gandhi, was a a man with the foibles and faults of other men. This in no way detracts, much as these so-called "Kemalists" would have you believe, fromhis accomplishments and his life.
 

Guest - scepticalyabanci
2009-12-23 13:52:59
  A superb and skilfully written article by a journalist with whom, I confess, I do not always agree. Today, though I do! As a foreigner living in Turkey for a number of years now I have always found the Ataturk cult somewhat quaint, mildly amusing, and not a little sinister. I say this as an admirer of Ataturk, the man. Ataturk was a great man and a major player on the stage of Twentieth Century history. As I see it, the more of the truth, warts and all, of his life that is included in the portrait we have of him, the strong he becomes. This was a great life and it can stand, and indeed be further enhanced in stature by putting the whole story out there, to be discussed and analysed and interpreted and argued over in an atmosphere of free and open debate. (Why do so many Turks fear these things so much?!) And I for one only admire him even more when I am told that he knew a mysterious and exotic lady named 'Madame Corinna.' However, beyond 'Ataturk: The Man and the Myth', there is the far less noble story of a legal system and a number of laws that invite explotation and abuse, and there will always be those who will use those laws and that legal system to pursue personal agendas that have absolutely nothing to do with anything so noble as showing respect to the memory and legacy of a great leader.
 

Guest - osman
2009-12-23 13:06:17
  Mr.Korkmaz does not seem to understand that after 600 years of Ottoman empire 99% of todays Turks are all descendants of the ottomans.Otherwise where do we come from?The moon?
 

Guest - faizee
2009-12-23 11:10:54
  Bravooooo Mustafa bey...i really appriciate your intellectual skills to make reader THINK instead of getting annoyed on this very serious and delicate issue, espacially for Turks. There is need to open our hearts and minds to accept that a human being is blend of strengths and weaknesses wether he is an ordinary street guy or an extraordinary freedome fighter. Therefore, telling truth about someone should not be a punishable crime in any case!!!! though i also agree that positive traits should be promoted more than negative ones.
 

Guest - YABANCHİıSTANBUL
2009-12-23 09:46:19
  Hypothetically, if Turkey enters the EU, a journalist in let me say Finland who saw this movie and is not impressed and make some comments in a Finnish newspaper can be trialed in Turkey for ‘not admiring’ Ataturk? In fact, if you don’t admire Ataturk, you can be prosecuted?! And yes, I am a foreigner, and for me hard to understand the thoughts of this ‘professor’. I hope these above written sentences are in line with the Turkish law…
 

Guest - Vural Korkmaz
2009-12-23 09:28:16
  The author asks: "Why is it so easy to insult Atatürk?" I suggest him to look at the people who insult Ataturk. The only reason for those who insult him is that Ataturk help Turks establish a contemporary, democratic and independent state of their own. People who insult him are the neo-Ottomans, the descendants of Ottoman elite, who wanted their system of oppression go on for ever. People who made of the Ottoman elite were and are not Turks. They are the devshirme who were the people Ottoman system recruited from non-Turkish families and trained to be their professional soldiers, police, government minister, governornors, mayor, etc. to keep the Turkish majority under their oppressive regime.
 

Guest - Encin
2009-12-23 09:01:29
  Thank you for writing this very interesting article giving us another point of view of the, "human Atatürk, who was a great man with a great many failings and mistake". He was a great leader who advanced Turkey in the ways they needed to go. I agree with you, Mustafa Akyol, having lived here in Turkey now for 10 years I find it interesting that many Turks have created a " supra-human figure with a spotless beauty, wisdom and virtue". E.
 

Guest - David. S
2009-12-23 08:00:52
  You are right, as a foreigner I find this very hard to believe. I think that even if I were a Turk I'd find it hard to believe, at least if I were a Turk that hadn't been brainwashed from birth and educated in a system which relies on repetition of "facts" from revisionist text books and a droning ideology from a long dead past. Will this cult ever move on from the 1930's?
 

Guest - amazen
2009-12-23 07:16:53
  Dear Mustafa, As a foreigner living and teaching in Turkey, I can wholeheartedly agree with your ideas. The deification is, truly, something which needs to be seen to be believed. I can compare this idealization to the way two great world leaders are commonly regarded: Lincoln and Churchill. Both brilliant, both farseeing, both hugely influential and brave beyond anything we might expect from a mere mortal. They suffered from the "black dog" of depression, insomnia, alcoholism..... It made them no less heroic and so much more human. In fact, one might go so far to say that by overcoming these "weaknesses", their accomplishments seem even more admirable. What is so wrong with taking an honest look at one of history's great leaders who, for all his glory, was, after all, simply one of us who dared to make a difference?
 

Guest - James Polar
2009-12-23 06:57:44
  Turkey has come a long way in just seven years yet she has a lot more to go. Mustafa Kemal was a true leader for his time. Regretfully, the establishment has not realized that eighty years have passed and Turkey has refused to move forward. Kemal and his efforts were appropriate for the beginning of the NEW Turkey but today they are a hinderance. How can we move forward into the 21st century with backward minds in the likes of Professor Mumcu?
 

Guest - Khalid
2009-12-23 06:48:17
  Very good article! As an arab, I truly want Turkey to succeed, and be a strong and prosperous country, but I have always thought that Mustafa Kemal, should have remained a soldier; a great soldier for sure he was, and steer away from politics (reading a couple of french intellectual books does not qualify you to be a stateman), and chose someone who is secular leader with strong connection with the Syria and Iraq, and cultivated a triple Unitarian entity that is based on democracy and mutual security and commerce. The problem was that Kamal came from the Balkans and had little affinity with the middle east and wanted to do something that is so unnatural and that is to drag the entire of Anatolia to the western mold, which is proven unsuccessful. The people in Izmir and Istanbul might have lots of affinity with Greece and the west, but west of Ankara is not the case and will always have a strong affinity with Syria and Iraq and Tabriz. I say this from experience from lots of travel in that region. I am from Tunis, but i have always thought there is something that unites Syria, Iraq and all the way to Tabriz and Yozgat. I do not know what is it: they have a different mentality than Persians, Saudis, Egyptians, Istanbulis, izmiris. (dont include amasya and samson and east black sea region which is populated mostly by Charkas). Maybe, if we have a fully industrialized and democratized societies things would change, cross your fingers folks.
 

Guest - Turiddu, Sicily
2009-12-23 00:52:31
  Yes Mr. Aykol I am a foreigner but I have no difficulty in believing what you say. You know I live in the country where Berlusconi has the power. However I must admit that you have a good sense of humor, almost, just almost, like Mr. Bekdil. In any case, congratulations!
 

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