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• MUSTAFA AKYOL
Thursday, July 29 2010 19:52 GMT+2
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Kemalism needs to be disarmed – and privatized

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Mustafa AKYOL

Turkey’s latest national controversy over the alleged coup plan codenamed “Sledgehammer” will probably remain as just that: a controversy. The generals who seem responsible will probably not face any trial, for the military remains as an untouchable institution, especially after being saved last week by the Constitutional Court from civilian scrutiny. A bit like the ancient legal maxim, “The prince is above the law,” Turkish laws place the generals above the justice system that we, the lesser mortals, are subject to.

In the media, too, the controversy will probably remain as a controversy, because people will continue to make judgments solely based on their pre-existing convictions. Those who believe that the military is indeed a crucible of coups and other crimes will be convinced in the reality of the Sledgehammer scheme. On the other hand, those who see the institution as the heroic savior of Turkey, or at least their own social class, will refuse to believe that some generals actually sat down and made plans that involved the killing of innocent citizens.

After all, it is almost a national custom of us, the Turks, to have strong convictions without adequate facts.

The ideology in arms

However, beyond all these uncertainties behind the alleged coup plan, there is a fact on the ground that is bitter enough. There is an elephant, as the saying goes, in our living room: The Turkish military exists not just to protect the nation from foreign threats. More than that, it exists to protect a certain ideology from the citizens who happen to have different ideologies.

This ideology, as we all know, is Kemalism, which is inferred from the policies of Mustafa Kemal, modern Turkey’s founder. Radical secularism, assimilationist nationalism and “statism” are its main pillars. It is not my cup of tea, to be honest, but there are many Turks who see it as the best idea that ever befell on the nation – or even any nation.

The party most Kemalists often vote for is the Republican People’s Party, or CHP, which was founded by Mustafa Kemal himself in 1923. And it is perfectly fine for the CHP, or other political forces, to support and advance Kemalism within Turkey’s multiparty politics. But it is not fine for the military to do the same thing.

Because the latter means that the political parties and social groups that disagree with Kemalism are challenged not only by the democratic politics of the CHP, and other similar parties, but also the tanks and guns of the military. The latter has staged four military coups since 1960, and all of them were directed against non-Kemalist (center-right or pro-Islamic) governments. Moreover, the fear that it can launch new coups, stage assassinations or do other nasty things is constantly in the air, like a Sword of Damocles over the whole nation.

The only other political ideology in Turkey that enjoys similar support from an armed organization is – guess what – Kurdish nationalism. The armed organization here is the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK. Its terrorist attacks are widely (and rightly) considered as big a problem for Turkey, because it not only costs innocent lives but also constantly sabotages democratic politics with violence. That’s why Turkish democrats call for the disarmament of the PKK, and invite its sympathizers to do politics without leaning their back on “the mountains” – a reference to Kurdish guerillas.

In the same way, Kemalist politicians and ideologues, too, need to learn to do politics without constantly leaning their back on “the barracks” – a reference to Turkish officers.

What this practically means is that, for Turkey to become a real democracy, the military needs to be de-ideologized, and turn into a politically neutral organization doing its democratically defined professional job: to protect the nation from potential foreign threats.

Privatization saves

Of course, how to force the Turkish military into that great transformation is the million-dollar question. But that’s another debate.

Here let me just make another point. If this transformation ever takes place, and thus Kemalism gets disarmed, it will be good for not just Turkey, but also this very ideology. Losing the support of the authoritarian state, and becoming an equal player in the marketplace of ideas, can push Kemalism to reconnect with society, rather than looking down upon it, and start to change.

Economics can give us a perspective here. One of the success stories of free market capitalism is privatization, for it has often turned stagnant and sinister state enterprises into booming and smiling private companies. What I am talking about here is a similar “privatization” of Kemalism, which can help ideology move forward from its archaic dogmas, and come to the realities of the 21st century.

Kemalist parties might then try to win new voters by pragmatic stances on real issues, rather than dispersing fear and calling the generals to “duty.”

They might even start to think that democracy is really not that bad.


 

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Guest - mok10501
2010-02-28 06:24:59
  "Privatization" ? Yes it does work for the rich and saves the egocentric capitalists who are bloodsucking the world resources under the name of "globalization". How on earth the poor countries can compete with them under this rules? Look at your "TEKEL" workers!.. Are you happy now that you have privatized the TEKEL? It was at least an low-income producer for your people with a warranty that they'll have something for their children on the table. Now, with the ongoing situation they may put the AKP's head on the table.
 

Guest - Mr Goksel Doganay
2010-01-30 10:20:30
  Ali I am a Scientist myself and understand Science very well. Islam is a religion of Enlightenment and Science. No religion in the world can make such claims as Islam. You can thank Islam for modern Medicine, for mathematics such as Algebra and Geometry, Engineering of waterways and irrigations systems, Entrepreneurship to Business such as setting up of banks including checks, and insurance. You can thank Islam for modern concepts today which are in effect. I unlike you Ali do not blame religion or ethnic groups for modern problems but people. It is people who manage the world and therefore people cause all the problems in the world. Instead of taking responsibility scapegoating religion for modern problems is disgraceful. You are very wrong in blaming Religion for the demise of the Ottoman Empire. Your logic doesn’t make sense in that Islam was pushed to the forefront from the 16th century onwards and therefore lead to the demise of the Ottoman Empire. So what happened before the 16th century Ali did Islam somehow get pushed to the forefront? I don’t think so. I also suggest you do some reading and understand that the Ottoman Empire was not an Islamic state but secular state. The Ottoman Empire was a world power up until 1909 when it was dismantled. The Empire was mismanaged not by the Sultan’s but by the people themselves. Your reasoning is too simplistic and doesn’t go into in depth. The Empire failed to adapt to the modern world such as Revolutions in France, Industrialisation of the Economy. These are the reasons, Islam is not to blame. Islam doesn’t ask for people to be locked up and be in cotton wool. Islam encourages the people to contribute to society, be the best they can be and achieve and strive for success. Islam also encourages education. So Ali I ask you to look at the facts rather than make simplistic conclusions. Man causes all the problems in the world not religion. Blaming religion for modern problems will not solve any problems. I agree radicals must be kept away but unfortunately I do not have any confidence in the people namely the Turkish military to keep radicals out. The secularists themselves regard religion as a radical concept and any forms of religious expression are not tolerated. This to me is a form of secular fundamentalism and radicalism. The secularists in Turkey are the secular version of the Taliban. Turkey doesn’t have Islamic radicals in which people want to bomb themselves for a cause. For example the last Turk that committed terrorism killing a Turk just last year no Imam was willing to give this person his cenaze. This is a clear example in which terrorism in the name of religion is acceptable in Turkish society. I think the fear of terrorism is played up in order to suppress religion rather than for genuine security. A secular democracy can only be guaranteed if we have people who are willing to have a genuine respect for the rule of law. Not a military only interested in their own glory.
 

Guest - ali
2010-01-29 00:30:03
  @Mr Goksel Doganay, please follow my answers to your questions respectively; 1) Modern science and free thinking is not a drivel, believing a divine creator, heaven/hell , concubines after life does not suit modern human, 2) I do not carry any hatred in my heart towards any religion, as long as the believers are decent. But religion is used to mobilise masses in the hand of radicals, and any decent person can be turned into a crucial killing machine. That is what I am afraid of when I read human history. 3) Technology and new discoveries do not mean we are more decent and modern, but they can be used as massive destructions. Today, one bomb means one million souls, one suicide bomber means hundreds of souls, why? Religion is one of the significant tools to make a normal person completely blinded, and second stage belongs to ultra-nationalism off course. Do you have any other reasons for the wars? 4) You are completely wrong; it was not Islam that gave way the success of the Turks, but our courage and freedom desire planted three thousand years ago. You should know very well that after the 16th century, the Ottomans started to lose its strength through putting religion in the front, into politics and governance, turning their face from the modern science. While the enlightened world was overcoming the dark ages of religion, we were heading quickly into that helix. Between 16th century and 19th century unfortunately was not a golden age my friend, but the shameful age for the history of Turks. An empire spreading across three continent including 27 countries turned into 21 small cities in the Anatolia by Sevres. Why? Vultures were fighting each other about how to divide our land. We relied on too much religion, we left our people ignorant, our society under miserable condition, we spent only our youngsters and our future in the war fields, we created a crippled society, and our “Ummah”, when we crucially needed them stabbed us from our back. Why? Was it the will of God? Should have we been exterminated in the plateaus of Anatolia?, Where was our place, middle Asia according to Lloyd George? My friend, Islamists do not want to accept the reality that the “chosen scourge of Islam and people” was saved by an enlightened man, may be by an atheist at the end. 5) By this, I do not mean there are no crazies in the military. On the contrary, a raving soldier can be more dangerous. But Turkish soldiers neither bombs a Mosque nor any other sanctuary, which nowhere it has been witnessed in the history. These must be plots of those who lost their minds. 6) A secular and decent country is what we need, and we should keep the radical effects of religion away from our people, if we want to survive, because we have still many enemies. Regards.
 

Guest - Ahmed Ali
2010-01-28 23:11:04
  At a time when all the personality cults have almost disappeared around the world, Turkey has hung up to hero worship. Mustafa did what was good for the nation at that time, also you should know that many nations even after being occupied by the powers in those times have regained independence one way or other. Turkey should progress with Islam and not without it..if we consider that we bow to God first then to a human being.On the other hand Turkey can be a good ground to show moderation in all respects and how to apply modernity with freedom to individuals not at the expense of society as a whole.
 

Guest - Mr Goksel Doganay
2010-01-28 18:58:30
  Ali where on Earth do you belive in such drivel? Why has this newspaper become a centre for anti-Islamic hatred? Ali I think you need to get your facts right before you make stupid conclusions. It is when the Turks converted to Islam that lead to the golden age in its history. The Ottoman Empire was the most successful era in Turkish history. The Ottoman Empire was a global power with widespread influence on global scale. The Turkish state up until recently was a failed state, a gangster's paradise and a wasteland. The Generals in Turkey threaten its secuirty and its foundation. How is plotting to kill people who don't agree with you enlightenment? How is planting bombs in a mosque modernity? Do you feel safe with these types of Generals? Do you sleep comfortably knowing that Turkey is under threat from a military coup?
 

Guest - Mr Goksel Doganay
2010-01-28 18:37:19
  Dennis do you not understand English? How have I attacked Ataturk? Ataturk is a human being who is dead and nothing more. He was a past President who did his job until his death. He is not God or the creator. I have not attacked Ataturk, but merely stated the facts as they are. If you think he is God then good luck to you. No one has to believe in your pitiful belief. The armed forces of Turkey are not the army of Ataturk. It is a branch of the government that belongs to the people. How is Turkey a strong nation based on the enlightenment? If Kemalism has given Turkey enlightenment how come it is a gangster’s paradise? How come Kemalism has given Turkey misery and poverty for so long? How come since the AKP came into governance, the GDP per capita has risen from 13000 USD from 2500 USD, a fourfold increase in 10 years? I don’t know where you have got the idea that I dislike farmers or the working class. I am a firm believer in a capitalist system which benefits the working class. I have every right to accuse the followers of Ataturk as atheists. The Kemalist system is a system based on atheism which disregards any form of religious worship and expression. It is a system that has suppressed ethnic minorities including the Kurds. Labelling people who do not agree with you a menace and a threat to the country is disgraceful. You have basically confirmed my basic argument. Kemalists are atheists and disregard any opposition. The only radicals that exist in Turkey are secularist fanatics who desire an atheist system who have no respect for non-Muslims or Muslims. I don’t know who you talking about, but Ataturk is dead Dennis not alive. As I said before he did his job and nothing more. If you don’t agree with me that is fine, but you have no right to threaten people with violence if they do not agree with you. The very thought of threatening violence goes against the Turkish culture and values. If you do not like Islam that is fair enough, but I suggest you live with it as it is part of the Turkish fabric and will never change.
 

Guest - joke
2010-01-28 17:36:01
  Democratic Muslims are doing wonders. But Islamists are pushing their agenda. Democratic Muslims only recently started to speak up for democracy. They are far shorter than answering concerns of seculars. Instead they choose a strategy of offence on "Kemalist" read it as seculars. These discrediting attacks on seculars and vague democracy language is no comfort for seculars. They want to sell majority rule as democracy. We defend individual freedom. It appears Muslim Democrats just want to take over the ruling power from seculars but keep all the attributes of it they criticize. They want to use such undemocratic attributes for their policies instead of secular policies. Seculars had such policies to control Islamists. Muslim Democrats want to have it for what? Why would they not be like Christian Democrats? Why would they not like a constitution that guarantees individual liberties? Because if they assert democracy and be Muslim Democrats they will loose votes of Islamists and that would cost them the office. So they want to have a constitution that is vague. They believe that that is the only way to keep the office. So the divergence bewtween Muslim Democrats and seculars is clarity. Muslim Democrats should stop attacks and commit to more clarity. Define yourselves better, guarantee individual liberties and get our votes. Stop provocating seculars trying to show them as evil junta lovers.
 

Guest - ali
2010-01-28 14:12:08
  Friends, Religion is the oldest dogmatic ideology, but unfortunately still dominates, because dissemination is quite easy, and does not need thinking. So, religion is not scientific for it relies on certain beliefs and rituels not the facts. By this, religion is the reverse of civilisation of minds, because it is fundamental and doctrines cannot be changed. Dreams, revelations and a kind of hysteria are the main pillars of religion banning experiment and questioning of those very pillars. Why it still dominates then, because useful to govern people. Governing elite cannot leave it aside, plus they always help religion penetrate among people. Unfortunately, the universal history of human being provides enough evidence that religion and science has always been in a deadly clash, because, one believing one religion and its pillars does not think of other religion friendly, and sees the other miserable, poor, infidel, second class, and every believer for this reason feels responsible himself to spread the right belief. This the reason bringing clashes among humans. The biggest atrocities and crimes have been committed in the name of religion throughout history (off course religion is the main privileged tool to mobilise people behind the real aspirations). When the governing elite demand more influence and power, believers cannot question the will of the God. So, consciousness disappears when the religion is concerned. In those places in fact where secularism and free thinking dominate, the human civilisation has evolved. In Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was one of the few enlightened men seeing this truth, and wanted to remove the darkest side of religion over his nation. Of course, majority should have been against this, because there was a significant benefit shift, for example, religious leaders were losing their power, because people started to go to doctors not to exorcists. Therefore, as it has happened throughout history, there will always be clashes between science and religion, particularly in Turkey in which majority of people are muslims tending to be fundamentalists as evidenced. After the 16th century, religion had influenced and changed deeply the very fundamentals of society, and this influence cannot be removed easily, thus the Turkish army swearing as the only army to be secularist in the world shall continue fighting against fundamentalists in Turkey, until, Ayatollahs, Mollahs or Rafsancanis become a very small minority.
 

Guest - SenBen
2010-01-28 10:45:00
  Ayatollah Doganay is selling the sharia. Did you made a petition yet in Australia? Woud be interesting to see the reactions of the australian parliament about your sharia idears.
 

Guest - Mr Goksel Doganay
2010-01-28 08:32:01
  Skepticalyabanci you are a clear example of how ignorant you are when Islam is concerned. I find it odd that people have an opinion regarding Islam and Islamic practice when in fact they have no idea what they are talking about. It is one thing to have an accredited certificate on Islamic training, but to go even further to suggest you know is utterly appalling. Many claims are made about Sharia law when in fact no one has no idea what it means. Islam is a religion for the people and it allows people to make laws regarding their time and era. Sharia law is based on common sense such as freedom and the rule of law. Associating Sharia law with practices such as stonnings, cutting off people's hands is disgraceful. Many Western countries are compatable with Sharia laws. Many Muslims don't have a problem living in these countries as it ensures the rule of law. In fact Islam is a religion that supports Secularism. Islam is a religion that has no clergy which in many medieval times intervened in state practice. The Ottoman Empire contrary to popular thinking was a Secular state. The Ottoman Empire had many ethnic minorities and religious minorities. With respect to Turkey, it is the religious Muslims who argue for a complete separation of religion and state. Those who argue that Islam should have no influence on politics has no idea what they are talking about. These same people argue that believers should not participate in politics. Well what a great way for society cohesian. The problem in Turkey is many Secularists have turned secularism into a religion which causes even more problems. In future I would ask skepticalyabanci to get their facts right before making incorrect claims.
 

Guest - The Casual Observer
2010-01-28 08:20:47
  I must confess that I find Mr. Mustafa Akyol has written a very provacative article, alrthough the first two paragrphs are a bit unclear. It gets one to wonder, is he prejudging the guilt of the organizitions of his discontent or is he bemoaning their existance, e.t.c., until one reaches the two line sentence: "After all, it is almost a national custom of us, the Turks, to have strong convictions without adequate facts" A good description of Turkish Street and many other peoples in genetal, then the clarity begins to emerge an he offers us his assesments and conclussions. Be aware Mr. M. Akyol, that another such danger lurks in the wings: The Party in power is attempting to have the YOK Adminitration accept the Trade High Schools as well as Imam Hatib Schools as equivalant to Regular High Schools, thus opening the University Gates to those graduates. A University Diploma will surelly qualify them for applications to future in high level Government possitions, a pre-qualified cadre. Mr. Akyol or anyone else, please draw your own conclussions.
 

Guest - Zonkey
2010-01-28 00:27:45
  Goksel Doganay - What a tirade of rubbish ! Answer me one question : Do you believe that freedom of religion incorporates the necessary freedoms from religion ? What about people who don't buy in to your beliefs ? Secularism can go a long way to guaranteeing freedom to worship to all different afflictions if one so chooses precisely because religion remains a largely private matter and does not interfere with public life and, in particular, the State. Whilst you harang Kemalism as outdated (and I can agree with a lot of what you say here), you feel it OK to push Islam. Well if the 7th century ramblings of an illiterate Bedouin aren't outdated then what is ? This latest rant from you smacks of the totalitarian ideology that I believe you support.
 

Guest - ali
2010-01-28 00:00:09
  ha ha ha, sooo funny, continue please, you, have in time become a complete drollery providing the comical part of TDN that we incredibly needed. Write please, that Turkey should re-accept the conditions of Mudros, submit arms and dissolve armed forces so that every country or sect should be able to settle wherever they want, not enough?, then approve the Sevres treaty, tear down the Lousanne, accept a Mandate, and beg mercy of establishing a sovereign republic by fighting against imperialists and monarchy lovers, re-establish caliphate, use sacred arabic, close printing houses, ban idols, paintings, plastic arts, educate in madrasahs and do not think scientific so that people should think the world is still plain, and the moon is a divine light, sell and buy the women as a material, cover them in black so that people should be able to discriminate who is real prostetute, do not accept any women testimony unless they are two, because they are half human, and they do not deserve any voting right. No not enough, we should be more open minded such as erecting the statues of Alexandre Ipsilanti, Andranik, King Otto (a Bavarian prince becoming Greek king), King Konstantine’s dear monkey, Teyleryan, Levon Ekmekciyan, Agop Agopyan and most importantly APO. Instead of reading quotes from Ataturk in the first pages of the books, memorize the 14 doctrines of Wilson. Ah, what a peaciful country could be Turkey without Turks. What would you expect more, if there was no Mustafa Kemal? Soo funny ha?
 

Guest - S.B
2010-01-27 23:56:21
  Kemalists disarm,mullahs arm and there goes the Turkish Republic down the drain.Ladies and gentlemen this is what the writer has been dreaming of all along!
 

Guest - SenBen
2010-01-27 23:30:02
  Ayatollah Doganay from "down under" makes an analyse about the Kemalism in Turkey. Thats like a fish which wants to make a report about the 1oo meters in Olympia. Ayatolla Doganay, read your islamistic books and visit the jihad pages but stop making analyses. --Kemalism brought the medieval & arab affin turkish society to the civialized This road is not fisnished, we see this everyday when the islamists are trying to go back to the "arab" way. Be sure : this will not happen We arnt arabs and we will not be arabs. The last thing we have from this medieval tribes is this religion. We need more atheism and agnostism to get rid of this society brake called islam. --Ayatollah Doganay, how is it to live in a secular country like Australia when you yell the same time for an islamistic Turkey?
 

Guest - dennis
2010-01-27 22:03:30
  To Doganay and people in favor of his statements: You people stop attacking Ataturk, His Armed Forces, and its very foundations of a strong nation bearing the idea of enlightenment and freedom of individuals. Kemalists do not despise people as you say, on the contrary, Ataturk had set the principles regarding the ultimate respect for the working class, even openly naming the famers as "the masters of the nation". So, how can his followers and believers of a Secular system can look down on people who are known as the milestones of the social unification.However, you always disregard his ideas, ways, principles and accuse him and his followers as Atheists! Yes, we do follow him, because there are still menace and threat in our country as it used to exist 71 years ago! Yes, we still have traitors, terrorists, Islamist radicals who are burning with a never-ending desire to abolish the secular system! So, you cannot expect - do not ever - that young and literate, wise Turks will give up following his footsteps! ATATÜRK, himself and his ideas ,therefore, will live forever, as long as you and yours alike people and ideas keep on existing in the borders of this country.
 

Guest - pia lundberg aydogan
2010-01-27 20:53:37
  Finally someone who is not afraid of saying what, at least I hope,many people are thinking! Well done,I always look forward to your intresting and mindstimulating articles.
 

Guest - Blue
2010-01-27 20:31:44
  Privatization has little to do with Kemalism or Islamism. It is a Western IMF, World Bank, neo-liberal effort to retard the development of developing economies, and enrich Western corporations and financial institutions. Selling off Turkey's public assets is intended destroy the Turkish republic, whether it ends up Kemalist or Islamic. No country in history has successfully developed through the privatization model advocated by these Western institutions, not any in Europe, or even the USA who promote this model for their own benefit. Mr Akyol is either ignorant of history, or a neo-liberal stooge.
 

Guest - peter
2010-01-27 20:20:23
  Mr AKYOL got it right and voices like this will help the democratization of Turkey. Take it from a Christian, democracy allows all religions to coexist. The Turkish military uses fear to justify its interferences with the government and will of majority of people. Military has only one purpose, to protect the country when asked by the government. No military in any Democratic country has the right to criticize or imposed on the elected government. It is really amazing that people who know how to write do not understand these simple facts.
 

Guest - scepticalyabanci
2010-01-27 19:19:49
  The new Republic, in its time, was right to suppress the influence of religion in the public sphere and on political processes. Islam, unlike Christianity in its modern forms, does not draw a line between religion and politics; quite the opposite. Islam means Sharia Law. The Turkish State should continue to keep religion out of politics, by whatever means necessary.
 

Guest - David
2010-01-27 18:08:26
  Military has protected Turkey and its citizens since the beginning. Not every threat comes from outside the borders, so it is the Military's duty to protect us from interior threats and detrimental ideas. Coups were done to protect peace, not to push an agenda formed by Military Generals. What is wrong with following Ataturk? What is wrong with a strong Military? Look at what "Kurdish peace and democracy" brought to the streets: CHAOS. Turkish Military is Turks protecting us, they should have ALL the power they can get. When did they abuse their power to hurt Turkey or Turks? Never. Anyone trying to "disarm" Ataturk or Military is not doing Turkey a favor, but hurting it. We are a fine modern state with a good economy. We should be like E.U. or other Western Countries? Are they doing GREAT economically these days? :) Nothing wrong with Turkey, as long as we keep on the track Ataturk has set for us, because it has been proven to work, and it's designed to push Turkey to the top.
 

Guest - SenBen
2010-01-27 17:47:21
  AKP propagandist Akyol compares the army with the pkk. interesting. Akyol saiys what he doesnt like, Kemalism, but he has not the guts to say what exactly he likes. Or did he allready said it with his support for the AKP ?
 

Guest - Mr Goksel Doganay
2010-01-27 17:35:24
  Kemalism is a failed ideology that is not compatible with modern 21st century values. It is antisecular and antidemocratic. Followers of Kemalism are very arrogant people who believe they are superior as if they have been given a god given right to rule. They have no respect for anyone except for themselves. Many Kemalists use their so called education as a pretext to make lofty claims such as they represent the state because they enlightened. The article is right on the money. On closer inspection of the Kemalists, they are very insular people, unable to comprehend criticism or logic and are addicted to military coups. The views expressed by Joke, Vural Korkmaz, Ertugruloglu and wolf beggars belief. Would anyone of these individuals like to spend some time in jail due to their political beliefs? Wolf there is nothing to negotiate, a secular democracy does not tolerate violent acts against innocent people. Freedom of religion is a cornerstone of secularism. You cannot claim to be secular and yet oppress or restrict religious freedom. If you have any interest in any country that does restrict religious expression, I suggest countries like North Korea or Cuba are attractive countries. Atheism cannot be mistaken for secularism. Kemalism is not an ideology based on secularism but on atheism. This in itself lies the problem. An ideology that is opposed to the popular will is not sustainable. Wolf the current government doesn't aim to restrict women such as covering them up or alcohol consumption. In fact if you look at the facts there was a 20 percent increase in alcohol consumption last year alone. Confusing people into believing that the current government aims to suppress women is foolish at best. The state belongs to the people not the other way around or by Generals. Islam is the religion of the people and therefore religious practice is normal. Using Wolf's logic Islamic practice should be discreet. This is totally unacceptable, the people themselves should be able to express themselves freely. They should not be subjected to threats and intimidation. I would also like to remind many bloggers is that Ataturk is dead and died 72 years ago. He did his job and now we live in the 2010 not 1910 or 1920. Therefore exploiting the memory of Ataturk is an utter disgrace. The Turkish army has a lot to answer for to the Turkish people. Military coups have been carried out not in the name of Turkey or Secularism, but in the name of the General's power. To ME your claims about Ataturk's plans for Turkey are irrelevant. We are living in the present time of 2010. So do not confuse the issue. Military coups can never be tolerated.
 

Guest - ME
2010-01-27 16:49:03
  You are sooo wrong once again Mr Akyol. I agree with Wolf that all religion should be kept firmly out of politics period. Also, Mr Akyol, you would not have the privilege to be writing such nonsense had it not been for Kemalism and the Turkish Army. I think it is a very bad thing when you can compare the Army with terrorists, but I suppose you did that to get a rise out of citizens. If not for the Turkish army the path of the Republic of Turkey would have been derailed years ago by some radical group. I would like to believe that Ataturk put the army above the law in hopes of making all citizens of Turkey "upper" class NOT to guard the "Kemalist elite" from the masses. He had so many great things planned for the future of Turkey and his means should not be judged by you or anyone else so harshly.
 

Guest - wolf
2010-01-27 15:27:43
  I think the article misses one point with this idea of compteting for our minds. And that is that we will all have to compromise regarding a common set of rules how this country should function. And that means that I personaly would not feel very happy with regulations for example forcing women to be coverred (like in some Muslim countries) or that alcohol would be prohibited. So, my view is that religion should be kept out of the public sphere and let all the religions compete for our souls (without killing missionares), but lets keep it away from the regulation of the state in a true secular fashion. Even if people like e.g. sharia, that should never be part of our legislation no matter how much such ideas manage to compete and win.
 

Guest - vural korkmaz
2010-01-27 12:29:41
  Mustafa Akyol is neither an Islamic nor a Democrat; he is a sansationalist, a tabloid journalist aimed to attract attention of as many people as possible and sell his tabloid paper, Hurriyet, and make maney.
 

Guest - Orhan Ertuğruloğlu
2010-01-27 11:25:11
  Kemalism needs to be disarmed-privatised AND ISLAMISED!
 

Guest - joke
2010-01-27 03:45:11
  Mr Akyol, Islamic Democrats like yourself are in the process of defining themselves. If Islamic Democrats end up similar to Christian Democrats Kemalist will have achieved and disarm (in your words) or go low profile. Until your work of defining is complete we will respectfully watch all the attempts to discredit Kemalist and do our opposition. I have to note god forbid if Islamist (the ideological sector, not all the muslims) as we understand them based on the records had the power of Kemalist that would have been the disassaster of the kind you like to attribute to Kemalist.
 

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