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Talas’ last Armenian firm on staying

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VERCİHAN ZİFLİOĞLU
Despite being the only Armenian left in Kayseri's Talas distrcit, Karnikoğlu is determined not to leave. Coming from a well-known family, he says he will breathe his last breath here

Sarkis Karnikoğlu’s love for Kayseri has gained him a claim to fame: According to local legend, he is the last Armenian in the city’s Talas district.

Karnikoğlu, 50, attends the Sunday ceremony at the Church of St. Gregory the Illuminator and helps tend to the church daily. Sarkis lives a few kilometers from the city center in the Talas district.

“My family is one of the oldest and well-known families in this city,” Karnikoğlu told Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review. “I have never had any intention of leaving this place. I will breathe my last breath here.”

A favorite in Talas

Sporting sharp, dark suits and a moustache, Karnikoğlu is one of the most colorful personalities in the district. Everyone knows him in Talas and around the historical church; all the locals have his phone number and address. When he is near the church, people greet him and ask how he is doing. He even draws attention from the children, who surround him when he enters town.

Karnikoğlu enjoys the attention and is happy to be recognized by the locals.

“I would feel like a fish out of water if I were somewhere other than Kayseri,” Karnikoğlu said. “I wouldn’t be able to breathe. I am the last member of my family.”

Loyalty of friends

The members of Karnikoğlu’s family were baptized and married at the Church of St. Gregory the Illuminator, as were their funerals. He spent his childhood playing in the church garden.

“All my memories are here,” Karnikoğlu said. He had close friends, the children of neighbors, when he was a kid and still has close ties with those who are still alive.

“Everyone thinks I live here alone, but I am not alone because my childhood friends see me as their brother,” he said. “I never feel alone. I have a big family.”

Migration to US, Europe

According to Karnikoğlu, Kayseri used to be home to numerous Armenian families until the end of the 1960s. “Most of them migrated, mostly to the United States and Europe, until the late 1980s,” Karnikoğlu said, gazing at the church during a ceremony. “This garden used to be packed during Sunday ceremonies 45 years ago.”

Dilaçar surname from Atatürk

Kayseri has been home to many well-known Armenians. Karnikoğlu shared some of the names, born in Kayseri and famous around Turkey and the world. Known for his studies on the Turkish language, secretary-general of the Turkish Language Foundation Hagop Martayan is one of them.

After the surname law was established, the founder of the Turkish Republic, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, honored Martayan by giving him the surname “Dilaçar,” which is related to language.

Other prominent families of Kayseri are the Balyan and Gülbenkyan families.

The Balyans were Ottoman architects. Many of the palaces, mosques, churches and villas in Istanbul carry the Balyan signature. The Gülbenkyans, who were mostly traders, have a huge art collection exhibited in Portugal’s Lisbon at the Kalust Gülbenkyan Foundation and Museum. The family played a big role in international oil trade.


 

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Guest - kostas (2009-11-10 20:49:52) :

My point is that it is an extremely idiotic argument that since some Armenians were spared their lives, there was no Armenian genocide. It' s also true that Armenians fully supported the Russians. So what? Was this a reason enough to kill them all? I would remind you some similar cases , let's say Bosnia or Chechnya, but you d ' again say, Atheist Turk, that this article is about Armenians. No historical matter is identical to another, but there are similarities and equivalences.


Guest - Armenian (2009-11-10 07:55:21) :

That New York Times article is misleading at best. There were indeed Armenians that assisted the Russians, this is no secret, and Armenians do not deny it, but this group was a very small minority. They were mainly connected with the Social Democratic "Hunchak" Party. The vast majority of Ottoman Armenians remained loyal to the state. They enlisted in the army and they fought valiantly. Even Enver Pasha, the person perhaps most responsible for the genocide, praised Armenian soldiers for their bravery at the Battle of Sarikamish in December 1914; would a Turkish general say such a thing if the Armenians were revolting left and right? Note that this battle occurred about a month after that New York Times article was published. Also, some of the assumptions in that article are easily recognizable as flat out wrong. For example, it says that there were rumors that Armenians had besieged the city of Van. Well the problem with that is that Van was a predominantly Armenian city. How can Armenians lay siege to a city in which they are the primary inhabitants? Did the Byzantines lay siege to Constantinople when Mehmet the Conqueror attacked it in 1453? Such statements make no sense. But all this talk of the loyalty of the Armenians is a distraction. Armenians were very loyal, probably too loyal considering how the Turks had treated them over the past 75 years. One can only wish that the Armenians really did fight back, that they weren't so gullible in believing the Turkish gendarmes when they said they were only being relocated and not being led on a death march. Better that they died fighting in their own towns and villages then slowly starving to death in the deserts of Syria, at the mercy of Turkish and Kurdish raiders. But the ultimate fact remains that the loyalty of the Armenians is really not a relevant issue to whether a genocide did or did not occur. Governments are never justified in the willful targeting and extermination of a civilian population. No definition of genocide says "the extermination of a nation is forbidden, unless of course it threatens your empire, in which case exterminate away"; the exception, of course, apparently appears to be modern day Turkey...


Guest - George (2009-11-10 07:44:21) :

"Mark Rivers", Armenians have been residing in Eastern Anatolia for thousands of years, far longer than any Muslim or Turk.


Guest - Hovhannes (2009-11-10 01:09:36) :

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=940DE1DA133CE633A2575BC0A9679D946396D6CF http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9F0CE3DF153FE633A25752C2A9609C946296D6CF


Guest - Hovhaness (2009-11-10 00:54:53) :

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9F0DE6DC1E3AE633A25754C2A9679D946396D6CF


Guest - Serge (2009-11-09 22:53:59) :

Mark, Richard and Ergun, do you guys realize what you are saying. In other words you are saying Armenian women and childeren who were deported to Syrian desert to thier death and starvation and who were raped and killed by turkish soldiers, were train individual who were capable of killing well trained tukish soldier right? I don't know what are you guys somking but I would suggets you get sober first and read the history written by non-Armenian historians and scholars who know about Armenian Genocide.


Guest - hayuhi (2009-11-09 22:02:27) :

" No one who lives in error is free" and I'm addressing this to those Turkswho are still in denial that the Armenian Genocide DID happen. It's much better to face the past with all its monstrocities than be in utter denial that it ever took place! Unfortunately this is not just a bad dream that will go away, if the Armenian Genocide is not recognised soon, it will turn to a permanent nightmare. I am sure that there are some Turks who will be able to testify to the fact that their forefathers did help some of their Armenian friends or neighbours. I know of such a case myself when a an old family member was left with a Turkish family as their own grandmother, because she was too old to join those who were fleeing for their lives.Truth will set you free and it will only have a good outcome.


Guest - Erden (2009-11-09 21:54:12) :

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9B03E0DC1738E633A25750C1A9679D946596D6CF proof


Guest - AtheistTurk (2009-11-09 21:19:16) :

What are you on about Kostas? This article is about Armenians, if you hadn't noticed. I don't know why you're bringing up Jews and the Holocaust since practically every Turk is aware of it and disgusted by Hitler's actions. You get a small amount of revisionist nutcases in every nation, including your beloved Greece.


Guest - Ergun (2009-11-09 18:19:03) :

Hovhaness, another important legal criteria for an incident to fit the definition of genocide is the "intent" of the Ottomans at that time. They chose to relocate the surviving Armenians,from Estern anatolia, in the war zone, to other lands under the rule of the Ottoman empire. They were relocated to Palestine, Beirut, Syria, Iraq and some to Cyprus( I am a turkish cypriot). The Armenians that were relocated to Cyprus chose to live on the Turkish side of the gereen line in Nicasia, because they shared the same language and a similar culture. There is evidence that the number of Armenians relocated were around 1 million people. Upon the collapse of the ottoman Empire, the Armenians were left in lands that were captured by the British and France. From there they emigrated or relocated to countries all over the world, in Europe, Canada ( every Province), the US ( every State in the USA) and even to Chile and Argentina. The number of Armenians emigrating to these countries consisted of fairly large populations as evidenced by their influence as a voting block in every level of Government in each respective country. There is an organized group of Armenians trying to get every country to recognize the "so called Armenian Genocide". They know that if they go to court of law there is NO EVIDENCE of genocide by the ottomans. Final point is the fact the ottomans chose to relocate the Armenian population in the war zone in Eastern anatolia was that in a span of 30 years, the Armenians rebelled 3 times, and a lot of people were being killed on both sides. I would ask you the question: Why would the ottomans relocte the Armenians if they wanted to kill them? Isn't it proof that there intent was to let you live but prevent you from rebelling and killing kurds and turks who lived together with Armenians in eastern Anatolia. respectfully, Ergun


Guest - Mark Rivers (2009-11-09 17:37:22) :

What did the Armenians do with all the weapons they obtained other than klilling Moslem subjects (Turks, Kurds, Arabs and others) of Ottoman empire of Eastern Anatolia to carve up a "home-land" (which never existed in the history) for themsleves? Could someone explain? Could the Armenians not live with the Moslem peoples of the region they had alredy did so for centuries? Is there a racist element in their behaviour?


Guest - Hovhaness (2009-11-09 17:27:46) :

Ergun, you are repeating an old worn-out and debunked views about Armenians playing a "hoax" about this genocide. The only hoax in this story is the Turkish government propaganda and your belief in them. The fact that some Armenians were left in Turkey after the war does not in any way contradict the reality of the Armenian Genocide, just as few Jews remaining in Germany does not negate the reality of the Holocaust. In regards your views of "mutual killings", all can be said is that such views are failed propagandistic attempts at desperately "equalizing" the crimes. No such "mutual killings" correspond to the reality of what happened in 1915. Those insisting on this myth are making fools out of themselves.


Guest - Richard Murphy (2009-11-09 17:24:51) :

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9B03E0DC1738E633A25750C1A9679D946596D6CF Turkish Armenians In Armed Revolt The New York Times Published: Novembver 13, 1914 Were Ready to Join Russian Invaders, Having Drilled and Collected Arms SEE DAY OF DELIVEREANCE Native Paper Says They are Prepared for Any Sacrifice - Refuse to Join Turkish Army. PETROGRAD, Nov. 12. - Reports reaching to Russian capital from the Turkish border attach increasing importance to the part the Armenians are playing in the Russo-Turkish war. In the several towns occupuied by the Russians the Armenian students have shown themselves ready to join the invading army, explaingin that they had prepared themsleves for the Russian approach by constant drilling and by gathering arms secretly. All along the line of march, according to these dispatches, the Armenian peasants are receiving the Russian troops with enthusiasm and giving provisions to them freely. An Armenian newspaper, referring to this crisis in the history of Armenia, publishes the following: "The long-anticipated day of deliverance for the Turkish Armenians is at hand, and the Armenians are prepared for any sacrifice made necessary by the performance of their manisfest duty." From this border country there have come to Petrograd further reports of armed conflicts arising from the refusal of Armenians to become Turkish conscripts and to surrender thier arms. It is now rumored that the important City of Van is now besieged by Armenian guerrila bands in great force. In Feitun the number of insurgents is said to exceed 20,000m and they are reported to have defeated all the Turkish troops sents against them, causing heavy losses to the Turks.


Guest - Ergun (2009-11-09 16:50:50) :

An objective way to characterize the killings of Armenians around 1915, is to see whether they fit the LEGAL definition of genocide. Genocide is the mass killing of a group of people, not because of what they did, but who they were. Lets consider two facts: 1. The turks and Armenians lived at peace with each other, for 800 years or so. Then the incidents around 1915 happened that resulted in the mass killing on both sides, Armenians and Turks. The fact is that the Armenians rebelled against the Ottoman Empire, and joined the invading Russians to fight the ottomans. So, there was a causal factor. The reason for the mass killings was because of what the Armenians did and not because who they were. 2. The second point re-inforces this conclusion: The Armenians away from the war zone, in Istanbul were not killed. If the intent of the Ottomans was to kill Armenians becauseof who they were, they would have done so in Istanbul as well, which they did not. Reasonable people would conclude that the incidents in in 1915, which resulted in mass killings on both sides, does not fit the definition of genocide. As a turk who likes Armenians, I feel that the biggest tragedy of this sad episode in history is the hoax being played on Armenians by their own ancestors, grandmothers, parents, and the Greek/Armenian Orthodox church who have turned this into an ideology, with the purpose that, may be this young generation, can try and get back "the land" that the Armenians used to live on side by side with turks. I genuinely feel that the saddest episode of the Armenian tragedy is the poisoning of Armenian minds by Armenians themselves. respectfully yours., Ergun


Guest - name withheld (2009-11-09 15:50:26) :

Some of my Armenian relatives from Kayseria were massacred, some died during the deportations and one who lost all her children committed suicide in the USA, her husband became mentally unbalanced. My aunt lived in Istanbul as a child for ten years, having escaped the Russian Revolution. She knew nothing about the massacres while living in Turkey and only found out about them in the USA where she met my Armenian uncle and married him. He had been shot in the fields of Kayseria. My aunt help raised the only child of his uncle and aunt who lost all their children in Kayseria; that child became a war hero during WWII, well loved and well known by the people of an American small town. He won the silver cross and recently a congressional award.


Guest - kostas (2009-11-09 12:50:56) :

Jewish population of Germany in 1939: 210.00. Jewish population in Germany now: 118.000. According to some Turk's interpretation of History, there has never been a Jewish Holocaust.


Guest - Anonymous (2009-11-09 10:35:20) :

David, as in any genocide, not 100% of the targeted group is exterminated. A small minority were saved by what Armenians refer to as "good Turks." Good Turks opposed the genocidal policies of the Committee of Union and Progress and hid their Armenian friends and neighbors at great personal risk to themselves. And some Armenians were spared simply because they were involved in some industry that was particularly important for the Ottoman war effort. Kaseri being an industrial city, this may be the case here, I am not sure.


Guest - david coors (2009-11-09 09:27:27) :

How come his family and the families of other Armenians who migrated away from Kayseri were not "massacred" by the Turks or Ottomans? So, it is nopt really true that Turks of Ottomans massacerd Armenians as anti-Turkish Armenian hate mongers claim.


Guest - Othan Kucukoglu (2009-11-09 03:25:17) :

Another attempt to soften up Armenians against Turkey?I dont think it will work,where are the thousands of Anatolia Armenians,killed,deported?


Guest - Armen (2009-11-09 03:06:53) :

Where is Kayseri? What is ANI? A thousand years ago ANI was the capital of an Armenian kingdom that covered much of present day Armenia and eastern Turkey. Ani had a population of at least 100,000 and its wealth and renown was such that it was known as the "City of 1001 Churches". Built on a spectacular site - a plateau encircled by deep ravines - Ani's many churches, palaces, and fortifications were amongst the most technically and artistically advanced structures in the world at that period. Ani is now a ghost city, uninhabited forover three centuries and marooned inside a Turkish military zone on Turkey's border with Armenia. Ani's recent history has been one of continuous and always increasing destruction. Neglect, earthquakes, cultural cleansing, vandalism, quarrying, amateurish restorations and excavations - all these and more have taken a heavy toll on Ani's monuments. Yet still Ani survives. EnterVirtualANI for a tour: http://www.virtualani.org/citymap.htm


Guest - Armen (2009-11-09 02:32:13) :

The city of Caeserea, today called Kayseri, has an important place in not only in Armenian history as the first Christian country in the world and the history of the Armenian Church, but an important place for the whole Christianity. Once the most important city in central Anatolia, with a population said to be 400000 in 250 AD, it was where St. Gregory the Illuminator grew up, was educated, and became a Christian. After his conversion of Trdat, king of Armenia, to Christianity in the early part of the 4th century, it was to Caeserea that St. Gregory returned to be formally ordained as a priest, and until the year 373 all the early catholicoi of Armenia were consecrated in Caeserea. Since Armenian Genocide by Ottoman Turkish government 1915-1918, Armenian population of Kayseri has dwindled to almost nothing, perhaps only 20 or 30 individuals.


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