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Far-right politician slams Turkey’s reaction as ‘stupid’

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After the government’s harsh reaction to a prospective visit by controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders, a vocal critic of Islam, the European Affairs Committee of the Dutch parliament is expected to review its plans. ‘I only use democratic means, I am sorry; I have nothing to do with racism or fascism,’ Wilders tells the Hürriyet Daily News
Dutch politician Geert Wilders. AFP photo

Dutch politician Geert Wilders. AFP photo

Far-right Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, a vocal critic of Islam who was declared “unwelcome” by Turkey, said the reaction of the government to his scheduled visit was “stupid.”

“I think it is a very stupid reaction because I am not a racist, I am not a fascist. I am a democratically elected politician representing now one of the most popular parties in Holland,” he told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review in a telephone interview Thursday.

Wilders, who leads the Party for Freedom, has plans to join a group of lawmakers from the European Affairs Committee of the Dutch parliament set to visit Turkey on Jan. 4.

Turkey said the Dutch politician is unwelcome. “We reject the views of the person in question. We consider them racist and unacceptable,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Burak Özügergin said this week.  

“I only use democratic means, I am sorry; I have nothing to do with racism or fascism. I despise everything that has to do with these kinds of ideologies,” Wilders told the Daily News.

“If this is the point of view of the Turkish government – Turkey, I should say – the Turkish government has no respect for freedom of speech or democracy, and is [itself] a totalitarian government,” he said.

After Turkey’s harsh reaction to Wilder’s prospective visit, which is said to overshadow Turkish-Dutch relations because of the media attention expected to focus on the controversial politician, the Dutch committee is expected to review its plans.  

“If the Turkish government will keep its opinion that I am not welcome, I don’t know. I still hope they allow me to enter and also make sure that I will be safe,” said Wilders.

He argued that his problem is with Islamic ideology.

“I have nothing against Muslims. I have nothing against Turkish people. I only have a big problem with the fascist ideology called Islam. This is something that I want to explain, why I see it and what I believe,” said Wilders.

He compared the Koran to Adolf Hitler’s book “Mein Kampf” and said: “I believe the Koran is the new Mein Kampf. I believe that Islam is not so much a religion; it has to be compared with other totalitarian ideologies like communism and fascism.”

The politician said Europe is under the threat of Islamization.

“I fight against the Islamization of our societies in the West. I believe this is a political point of view that I am allowed to make. I am not shouting from far away and hiding behind the corner. I am willing to come to Turkey and explain myself. I cannot be fairer than that,” he said.

His controversial movie about Islam, “Fitna,” which he made last year, drew complaints from the European Union, the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the United States for inciting religious hatred. Turkey said the lawmaker is unwelcome in many European countries.

Wilders said he went to Denmark and Italy and attended a debate on his film in the U.S. Senate, adding the only problem he has so far had was in the United Kingdom.

He was turned away at the airport when he tried to visit Britain in February on grounds he was spreading “hatred and violent messages.” He visited London last month after the ban was overturned by a British court.

EU membership ‘not in 100 million years’

Wilders showed fierce opposition to Turkey’s bid to join the European Union, saying Islamic culture was still dominant in Turkey but unlike Iran, it had a separation of religion and state affairs.

“But this is thanks to the Turkish army. I believe [Prime Minister] Mr. Erdoğan is a very dangerous man. He is dangerous in the way that he wants Islam to have more influence in society,” he said.

As part of the Copenhagen criteria required for full membership in the EU, the military should return to the barracks and not interfere in politics, noted the politician. 

“Normally I would agree with that, of course, but for Turkey I will make an exception. I really believe that if Turkey would join the EU, it would be a Trojan horse because then Europe will force the Turkish army to be nonpolitical and to go back into the barracks and I am sure that dangerous people like Mr. Erdoğan will then, without any control of the army, take Turkey in the wrong direction,” he said, describing the army as the “guardian of the legacy of Atatürk.”

Asked if Turkey could one day become a member of the EU, his response was clear: “Not in 100 million years.”


 

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Guest - Murat (2010-02-02 14:27:15) :

Who says he can not visit Turkey? Is he a criminal? Who has the authority on the basis of what, could deny this or any other person an entry or a visa? Nonsense. If he is half the man he claims, he will come, may face protests instead of the traditional welcome but he will be perfectly safe. He is a classic bigot of course, but even they have rights.


Guest - CT (2009-12-04 06:14:53) :

Any nation has the right to turn away those it considers undesireable. That is what sovereignty is all about. I live in Australia and we do not let people into the country that deny the Holocaust so why should Turkey a nation with a majority population of those that call themselves Muslim be attacked for refusing a visa to a person that is making comments that for one are not true (I dont consider myself a Muslim but know the difference between religion and a fascist ideology) and provoke the general population. I like free speach but sometimes there are consequences for speaking your mind. Thats why I was taught to think before I speak.


Guest - Brian (2009-12-03 18:29:34) :

There is only one reason I am annoyed he isn't coming! I have this old pair of shoes in the cupboard for years and didn't know what to do with them! I had them all shined up and new laces installed so I could have something to throw at him when he arrived! But my plans are ruined. I suppose I could hold on to them for the Sudanese President if he shows up. With an even bigger genocidal record than George Bush he would be an excellent candidate for a couple of NIKE missiles!


Guest - AtheistTurk (2009-11-29 04:14:04) :

@Mr Goksel Doganay - nice ad hominem! Those regimes were based on strong totalitarian ideologies: fascism and communism. It has absolutely nothing to do with secularism. Patriarchy exists everywhere in the world. It has been sustained in Turkey because of the Islamist influence that has poisened minds. As you probably are aware but unwilling to admit, there is a stark division between the secular and religious in Turkey, with the secular population valueing education for women and liberation, and the religious thriving in their ignorance. Are you totally blind? Ataturk set the foundations and liberated women hugely but he couldn't do EVERYTHING, he could only do so much - and reforms have to be sustained in order for them to work. Christ. And Turkey is absolutely NOT behind Indonesia and Malaysia in terms of gender equality, that is a laughable and frankly pathetic assertion by yourself. "If Islam was so anti-Science, anti-free expression, anti-Democracy and outdated how come it has lasted for about 1400 years?" Oh man, stop making a fool of yourself. Open your eyes, that's all I can say.


Guest - Jan (2009-11-28 23:06:14) :

Guest - David Coors (2009-11-27 04:46:25) : “Europeans claim that they went through an era of enlightenment during which they educated themselves to be free from hatred, greed and jealousy against fellow human being unconditionally regardless of religion, culture, language, race, nationality, geography, etc. After that they fought many, many wars against each other, killed hundreds of millions people of their own. They colonized countries and peoples in Africa, Asia, Australia, and other places, to oppress and plunder, and killed hundreds of millions of people again. ….” Please read Islam, Slavery and Rape http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28953


Guest - nazo (2009-11-28 21:36:49) :

@atheist. You are making sense. Refreshing.


Guest - mk (2009-11-28 18:11:35) :

To AthiestTurk and Villo: Critisim against religion is not a problem. Ofcourse you recognise good because of bad. If there is no bad how you will recognise and compare good. However, critisim should not be in an abusive way. The way Mr. Wilder desribe it, it is an abusive way and created a big trouble which causes un-rest in the whole world. Let me clear one point here that this is not religion which teaches terrorism. If someone is involved in terrorism, doest not mean that religion is teaching him. How terrorism raise? when people are forced to stop follow their religious obligtions peacefully. Another thing when the distribution of wealth is not justified. 80% of the world wealth has gone to one side and the other side is extremely poor. How do you justified this act? Lenin, Marxist, Mao, Htiler they were all irreligious people who killed millions of people in the world because of material gain. What about Darwinist education who clearly says that weak has no right to live or survival of fittest. Religion tells you the origin of life and shows you a clear path to salvation. It tells you that if you lie what is the consequence of that. Everybody agree that lie is not a good thing but how many people speak the truth. Killing of innocent people is strictly prohibted in religion. Even in war zone, it is ordered that you have to protect women, children and elderly people. If someone is not following these rules, means he is not fullfilling his religious obligations. So this is not religion which creates trouble, it is anti religion who says weak has no right to live and the world is created by chance and there is no God so have no fear.


Guest - Flying Dutcher (2009-11-28 17:52:43) :

@Guest - Mehmet Yilmaz (2009-11-26 21:23:00) said : I live in The Netherlands six years and I know that his views not taken seriously even in his own country and any average educated Dutch man or woman would say exactly I said above. What he wrote is not true. I am Dutch and live in The Netherlands. His oppositional political party is virtual very big. He keeps the gouvernment awake and they take over a lot of his idears. Turkey is a secular country on paper but not a democraty if they refush him as a member of parlements. @AtheistTurk (2009-11-28 03:18:59) I agree. Coöperate religion has nothing to do with freedom.


Guest - Mr Goksel Doganay (2009-11-28 13:55:23) :

Atheist Turk your ideas are lame and lack any intellect. Blaming religion for society problems it just a poor attempt to shoulder responsibility. If Religion is so bad and secularism is so good how come the worst regimes in the world have been Secular. Would you like to know who they are? Ok how about Nazi Germany, Pol Pots Cambodia, Soviet Union, North Korea and Cuba. These regimes have been a dagger in the heart of the human race. I also find it very contradictory when you blame Islam on the oppression on women in Turkey. Where have you lived? Do you seriously think that women are not oppressed in Turkey? Think again, if Ataturk was such a great liberator of women how come gender equality in Turkey is so low and behind countries such as Indonesia and Malaysia after 71 years after his death. Islam is not sexist it is not homophobic; I suggest you get a dictionary and look up its definition. Islam has no fear of homosexuality but it isn’t acceptable in Islam. If you don’t like it that is fine but to expect people to be accepting of homosexuality is wrong as well. If Islam was so anti-Science, anti-free expression, anti-Democracy and outdated how come it has lasted for about 1400 years. Any belief or ideology will not survive throughout time if it isn’t adaptable to changes in society and trends. I personally think you are lazy and not willing to think deeply rather you give a poor stereotypical answer and blame Islam for problems in society. If you want to love the human race you got to accept that people itself are to blame for problems in society. Also why don’t you take responsibility for your own actions?


Guest - noname (2009-11-28 11:05:37) :

Wha turkey did when in other muslim countries they kill the victims of rape cause they consider this as a sin?Nothing..Ok and you complain about the bad image people have about islam?not rational at all...


Guest - Villo (2009-11-28 07:14:37) :

To "mk": I do not share your views at all that religion should not be criticized. You say that "there will be problems" if one criticizes religion. That is very very dangerous for a society if there is a threat (because that is what you are actually saying) if religion can not be criticized or discussed. I can write for example that God does not exist, or publish cartoons about Jesus in a German newspaper, and there will not be "problems", violence etc. And that is the way it should be. The Christians simply have to learn that everybody do not share their views.


Guest - AtheistTurk (2009-11-28 03:18:59) :

Mk, why on earth should ANYONE "respect" religion. Religion clouds the mind, divides the human race, instills patriarchy and misogyny. Some of us have had enough of oppression against women! It is perfectly reasonable to be against Islam because it is sexist, homophobic, anti-science, anti-free expression, anti-democracy - it is outdated like most religions. We, rational-minded community, recognise that people have been blinded by this religious dogma for generations, which is why we don't hate Muslims as people. I want to love the human race, but unfortunately religion segregates us to this day.


Guest - mk (2009-11-27 23:35:22) :

I do agree with Alkan Chaglar: One thing Mr.Wilder saying that he is not against muslims and on the other hand he has a problem with Islam. What kind of statement is this? Muslims are recognised because of Islam. If there is no Islam there is not Muslim. There is no problem if Mr. Wilder visits Turky, the problem is, he should repect religion. He has no right to create trouble for Muslim. He knows very well that Muslims respect Quran and if he says something like he did in "Fitna", it definitely going to create big trouble in Muslim world and he tried to do that purposly. He could pass on his message in a nice way but he chose a wrong way. He was not allowed even in Britian because British understand the situation and did not want him to create un-rest in their country. I believe Turkey's decision was absolutely right.


Guest - Orhan Ertugruloglu (2009-11-27 20:28:12) :

Turkey is not obliged to receive the Dutch MP Geert Wilders according ro the established diplomatic practice. Recently the Dutch Minister Of Foreign Affairs has rejected the request of Serbian MP's to visit him.


Guest - Klaus Petzel (2009-11-27 18:43:39) :

To Kodumu: "No let him come, he can travel down Istanbul Taksim and tell the people what he thinks of Islam. Let's see how long he will survive!" That's exactly the kind of attitude which gives Wilders all the proof he needs - I have lived in Turkey for eight years now and I increasingly find that Islam and Democracy seem to contradict each other. Democracy means someone can say what he wants and how he wants it without having to fear for his/her own life. Unfortuantely in Turkey there seems to be a problem with that as I myself don't evev dare to say anything for fear I might be attacked - is that normal?


Guest - Alkan Chaglar (2009-11-27 15:58:39) :

Mr Wilders says “I have nothing against Muslims. I have nothing against Turkish people. I only have a big problem with the fascist ideology called Islam." Isn't this a contradiction for a country that is 99% Muslim?


Guest - katie (2009-11-27 13:49:12) :

Oh dear Mehmet, you show all your intolerance. Why can't Wilders give an opinion, you are free to do so, why not him too, or do you think you & only you have that right ?


Guest - MOHAMMED (2009-11-27 12:44:35) :

i m not turkish and so my comment will be more neutral.if you look at the dutch history mr wielder.actually you guys really know how to earn the money with blood in your hands.come on do i need to talk about your colonies.or should i say your representatives from holland even bent on their knees to chinese emperor just to sign the trade deals.even though its very ungentlemanly in those ages to go on knees.you did that becoz of trade deals.look at ottamon history other than few hiccups.it was inclusive society.dont go too far into kings i m talking about 18 centuary.i m not at all surprised with ur ideas.soon u will say the same about bosnia or kosovo or albania.i have one wish if ur party is the most popular i cant wait to see u as a prime minister becoz with that election your people would have sealed their fate to worse.dont compare u to erdogan u are not half the man he is.he dont need to be treated nicely as one guest pointed.there is proverb u can never straighten the dog's tail.we dont need to convince him of anything


Guest - yousuff (2009-11-27 12:35:31) :

mr wilders is the dangerous man who can be compared to hitler and he have the skin of democracy and free speach to cover his hatred against not only islam.there are few people like him in europe.if eu have to worried of security look no further than these elements who will tear the eu fabric.one more thing mr wilders i m not turkish citizen so take it from a guy who is far away from turkey.turkey will be much better of without eu or your stupid ideas in a billion years.if you dont know it was suleiman the magnificient who have established most of the basic rules of eu.


Guest - Sami Faltas (Netherlands) (2009-11-27 11:49:23) :

Mr Wilders hates Islam and cleverly exploits the fear of Muslims in the Netherlands. Sadly, this has made him very popular in my country. It is also sad that he receives so many threats that he cannot live in freedom and safety. Of course it would be interesting if he entered into open discussions in Turkey on matters of religion and politics. In fact, it would be interesting if he did this at home. But Geert Wilders does not enter into discussions with people who have a different opinion. He ridicules them. He is not a racist or a fascist. But he incites people to hate Islam, Muslims and foreigners. I can imagine that he is not welcome in Turkey.


Guest - Guest - Ulusoy (2009-11-27 11:22:38) :

Why I believe the Turkish Government is right by refusing Mr. Wilders, mainly because of these two reasons: 1. Mr. Wilders does say he doesn't have a problem with muslims, but with Islamic ideology. This I do NOT believe, because he keeps on calling muslims terrorists and he keeps blaming them of terrible things, of everything that goes wrong. He blames children who are living in the Netherlands, but who are muslims that they are street terrorizers and that they have no business in this country. He keeps on forgetting that those children are the products of THIS society, so he doesn't have the right to demand of them to return to "their own country", no this IS their country. If the Dutch government would be man enough to solve problems once and for all, by severely punishing all of the people that do wrong, there would be no problem. PEOPLE, THE NETHERLANDS IS A COUNTRY WHERE YOU'LL DO 3 YEARS IN PRISON FOR MURDER. UNBELIEVABLE. WHEN PEOPLE DO WRONG IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY WON'T GET A PUNISHMENT AS THEY DESERVE (MAYBE A HARSH TRAFFIC TICKET, THE DUTCH GOVERNMENT REALLY DOES WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE BACKS OF THE DUTCH CITIZENS), AND SO THE AVERAGE CRIMINAL (YOUNG OR OLD, MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN) WON'T TAKE A LESSON OUT OF IT. THIS ONLY MAKES IT WORSE. SO JUST BLAME ISLAM. wHY NOT? If we put the facts together, we could only come to this conclusion: Mr. Wilders is a liar. He is blaming Islam through the acts of people that do wrong (like terrorists, Bin Laden etc.), and he doesn't repulse the muslims themselves? It sounds like an automobile with no engine. And, unfortunately he does all his accusations and insults all under the protection of the sacred "Freedom Of Speech". 2. Allegedly, Mr. Wilders just wants to correct Turkey on its way to the European Union, and also point out to Turkey that their membership to the European Union may never come to a reality. He is coming to Turkey for this reason, and this reason only? I think, because I know what kind of a man Wilders is, he is a provocator. He deerly wants someone to hurt him in Turkey, so that he can point his fingers to Turkey and say: "Look at that country, we don't want a country like that in the EU now, do we?". I am of Turkish origin, and what I do now of my people is that they can be emotional when it comes to religion. And Mr. Wilders wants to make people emotional. If more than 80% of a country is muslim, and the government has to listen to the people, isn't it the right decision to refuse his visit to Turkey? Conclusion: Mr. Wilders is very wrong by ignoring the fact that Turkey ís a democracy, because the Turkish people indeed don't want to welcome such a provocator, and so does the Turkish government. A fine example of democracy, don't you think?


Guest - Kodumu (2009-11-27 11:10:14) :

No let him come, he can travel down Istanbul Taksim and tell the people what he thinks of Islam. Let's see how long he will survive! There is no such thing as Freedom of Expression, that's wrong. Why can't I talk about the Holocoust in Holland ? Or About Armenian Massacre allegations ? So dear European so called Modern People, we do not share the same values and will not. Rasicm and fascism are two skills which came from Europe and not from the far east. So sit down and learn from Turkey, see the Neo-Otomans comming.


Guest - J Benin (2009-11-27 10:35:43) :

Seems like this Mr Wilders is only interested in telling others his view and not listen to others. And how can he claim he is in favour of freedom of expression when he wants to ban the Koran? Why not ban Fitna then? Most muslims in this world are able to separate between 1500-year old sayings and living in the modern world. Wilders, however, seems completely stuck in his own prejudices. He wants to be a martyr, so let him come and let's laugh at him, that is the only thing the new crazy right wing hates - to be the subject of humour which they themselves don't have.


Guest - Dutch (2009-11-27 09:41:08) :

Unfortunately Wilders is right. To label him a racist and ban him because of that, does make this a totalitarian regime. Not a smart move from this government. Seriously, the man wants to visit a Muslim country, to explain why the Islam is stupid. You think anyone would have listened if you would just have let him? Really, why not just let the man make a fool of himself? Just remember to bring an extra shoe!


Guest - suleyman (2009-11-27 09:11:23) :

He hates anything muslim, why is he so desperate to visit.


Guest - David Coors (2009-11-27 04:46:25) :

Europeans claim that they went through an era of enlightenment during which they educated themselves to be free from hatred, greed and jealousy against fellow human being unconditionally regardless of religion, culture, language, race, nationality, geography, etc. After that they fought many, many wars against each other, killed hundreds of millions people of their own. They colonized countries and peoples in Africa, Asia, Australia, and other places, to oppress and plunder, and killed hundreds of millions of people again. I do not believe a word they say about how "civilized" they are. All the evidence show they are totally un-civilized. They still discriminate against people even each other because of religion, culture, language, race, nationality, geography, etc. Their "enlightenment" process and education systems failed big time. Therefore Turkiye would be much better off without EU membership. Why risk everything you have!!!


Guest - AtheistTurk (2009-11-27 04:05:58) :

Yet Erdogan is all too happy to welcome genocide perpetrators into Turkey like Al-Bashir, the Sudanese President. At least Wilders hasn't physically hurt anyone with his opinions. This is a farce. Having said that, I DON'T agree with Wilders' policies, and I think in many respects he is a hypocrite. However, he should be free to exercise his opinion.


Guest - HORNBLOWER (2009-11-27 04:03:33) :

Muslims say that Jesus didn't die on the cross --- a truth which is at the very heart of Christianity. Christians sadly accept that 1 billion people are taught and think that our faith --- which predates Islam by 600 years-- is a lie . We are sad that the 1 billion are deluded but we accept and love them because Christ loved those who persecuted him. Yet ONE man defies Islam and he can't visit Turkey. Turkey's reaction only solidifies this man's point: Namely Islam wants it all their way in the end. Turkey, how will you handle EU style free speech when you can't handle this? Reformers reform yourself.


Guest - Levent (2009-11-27 00:34:59) :

Btw, (to the moderators), you probably will cencor my comment, as you did to some previous. And you air this hate-preacher. Freedom of speech eh? You are a joke.


Guest - Levent (2009-11-27 00:32:07) :

What does this bloke have to offer, I mean in his country? He is just playing to the audience. We all know, there is an unrest towards the immigrants in Europe. He is just fishing the re-actionary votes. He is looking for publicity. Actually I think he is an evidence of Europe's miserable current state. Like an old woman, no projection, whinging, scapegoating all the time. I suggest you read the piece "Ben ve ben" (~Me, myself and I) by Ahmet Altan. I wish he came here and get what he deserves; ignoring the clown. But I know our good old furious nationalist would not let it.


Guest - Basil (2009-11-26 22:46:38) :

The problem I have with Wilders is that he is encouraging with his behavior Christian-Muslim tension. What's the point of that? He doesn't like the Quran? Well, the Old Testament, I am sure, doesn't sound better than the Quran. Is he criticizing Jews or taking shots only at Muslims? You can interpret religion whether it's Judaism, Islam, or Christianity in good ways. Jalaladin A Rumi was one of the best Muslims to ever live. He appreciated so many things in Islam. Wilders maybe should have been allowed in, I am not sure, but he wasn't really welcome in England.


Guest - abc (2009-11-26 22:11:57) :

should we become a christian to be accepted to Eu? I hope that after 100 million years later they dont want us.


Guest - Mehmet Yilmaz (2009-11-26 21:23:00) :

I think Mr.Wilder is deliberately mixing meaning of, faith, religion and freedom of speech. By doing this creating confusion among people in order to win votes based on popular/ controversial politics. Very cheap politics even dirty. I live in The Netherlands six years and I know that his views not taken seriously even in his own country and any average educated Dutch man or woman would say exactly I said above. Even in England authorities agrees that he is using cheap politics in order to get attention and inciting religion hatred.


Guest - Musti (2009-11-26 21:04:02) :

Seems Wilders has a pretty good take on Erdogan to me.


Guest - Taron (2009-11-26 20:49:48) :

I am just astonished that Turkey even dares to call anyone a rascist. If someone in Turkey says anything wrong which can be seen as an insult to 'Turkishness' he or she will be punished. So when I go to Turkey, I have to keep in mind that I am in danger if I say anything wrong and think of things that can be offensive to Turkey so that I would not accidently say it. Turks worship a person, and punish all people who offend this person. This is like a different form of communism. Stalin was worshiped and no one was supposed to say something wrong about him. Compared to Erdogan or many other Turkish politicians, Geert Wilders is not even a right-wing politician. If you put Wilders next to a normal nationalist Turkish politician, Wilders would be considered a soft left-wing politician.


Guest - guardian (2009-11-26 20:29:30) :

He is an honest guy I think. Because he doesn't hide his views like most European politicians. And I agree with him on this sentence: “Not in 100 million years.” At least he told the truth.


Guest - Gust reader (2009-11-26 20:16:19) :

I think this man says things that many millions in Europe afraid to say. Does Europe move toward Islaminsation ?- yes, it does - one should be blind for not seeing this. Even Turkey must recognise that the move of Alp Arslan in the 11 century brought total islamisation of Buzandian Empire in Asia Manor within 300 years. This is fact. Another 200 or 300 year of such a trend and Europe will repeat Buziandian Epire's fate.


Guest - Metin (2009-11-26 20:11:19) :

I believe the right approach is to welcome him, discuss his views openly and prove him wrong. Not admitting him into the country is counter-productive and only helps his cause. From that perspective, I hate to say, it is kind of stupid. This can be a great opportunity to make a strong case against him.


Guest - Just say what's in your mind! (2009-11-26 20:03:34) :

"Freedom of Expression" means exactly what it states: Free to express your opinion about anything! Whether is baseless or not it really does not matter. As humans we have a need to express ourselves whether is about a man, a situation, even for a religion, any religion without having to look over our shoulders after we have done so! In western societies, people who do not like what they hear they just shrug it off and move on with their daily lives or vocalize it with a very simple phrase that a lot of people in Turkey should learn to say--"THAT'S YOUR OPINION!!"-- There is not need for rudeness or violence. We forget words but not actions. It does not matter what we say but it DOES matter what we do, and Turkey has a long history of punishing its people for what they say. This is unacceptable in a civilized society!


Guest - harman (2009-11-26 19:51:55) :

I fully agree with Vilgot, let him in and deal with him correctly. However, don't expect him to get a realistic impression or balanced view. For that, he sunk away too far in the topic.


Guest - Ahmet (2009-11-26 19:30:00) :

If Sudan's president is welcome in Turkey, Ahmadinejad is a state guest and Hamas leaders freely meet with government representatives, surely Geert Wilders can visit Turkey too. Or do you have to be a Muslim extremist to make it to Turkey? Wasn't the argument for Hamas leaders that they were elected democratically? So is Wilders ...


Guest - Simon (2009-11-26 18:46:38) :

“Not in 100 million years.” - That's far to kind, I would say 'NEVER!'.


Guest - Kaya (2009-11-26 18:41:18) :

@Paul Broekman - Sorry, ive never heard of Turkish nationalist ideologies that involves cleaning unless its Greek or Armenian blood. By nature, Turkish nationalist's are fierce supporters of a more extreme type of Kemalism - though they take certain aspects of the constitution, such as a "unity state", out of context - believing it can only be achieved with the opression of minorities. Its a UNITY state strucutre, not a SINGLE state structure; the unification of all the peoples of Turkey. Now as nationalists and supporters of Ataturks constitutution, they also believe in the Turkish belief that: If you speak the language, adapt to the culture and live in Turkey, you are no less Turkish than me or the next Turkish man. We have no colour, and in retrospect, we have no "religion".


Guest - Emir Soler (2009-11-26 18:34:22) :

Keert Wilders is a bigot! This is what he had to say about Islam: Wilders states that the Netherlands should leave the European Union if Turkey, a Muslim majority country, is admitted to the EU.. Wilders would like to deport Dutch Muslims back to where they came from. ‘There is no equality between our culture and the retarded Islamic culture.


Guest - Paul Broekman (2009-11-26 17:26:11) :

Geert Wilders and some nationalist Turkish politicians have more in common than one would think. They both want to keep their countries identity "clean" and protected by law, they don't want much influences from abroad and are not very keen on other religions then their own. So they can easily shake hands! Those politicians unfortunately divide the world in countries with high walls and draw strict lines between human beings in times in which the world has become a global village and we all became neighbours. That is what I call a "backwards political vision"!


Guest - Kaya (2009-11-26 17:23:41) :

I think it would be good to have Geert Wilders in Turkey. Who are we to say he is unwelcome just because of his political views? I think he should come. Maybe when he see's what Turkey has achieved, he wont be so ignorant in his remarks that its "retarded". I hope he does come.


Guest - Vilgot (2009-11-26 16:28:56) :

I think the best way to handle this is to just remain silent and let the man come and just treat him in a correct way. It is a fine line to be able to critisize any religion (which is a necesity in any open free democratic country) but at the same time respect peoples' faith. I guess it is as usual when it comes to freedom of expression; one has to hear a lot of things one does not aggree with, but the opposite, i.e. priests or dictators deciding what can be said is a lot worse.


Guest - Mehmet (2009-11-26 16:28:15) :

If there are one which is stupid that are only you Mr. Wilders.


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