Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt. AFP photo
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European Union term President Carl Bildt on Wednesday asked those opposing Turkish membership to the EU: "Did the enlargements to date take place because the public wanted them?"
Participating in a debate on the future enlargement of the EU at the European Parliament, the Swedish foreign minister made comments to oppose those against Turkish membership and those who wanted to end the membership negotiations with Turkey and offer Turkey a privileged partnership instead of full membership.
Far-right deputies are against Turkish membership in the EU because of its large, Muslim-majority population, Bildt said. The Treaty of Amsterdam and Article 49 do not allow for exceptions for big countries, he said, adding that the treaty also has no religious criteria.
Article 49 states that the EU is founded on principles of freedom, democracy, rule of law, human rights and basic freedoms. It states that any European country displaying respect for such principles may apply for full membership, Bildt said.
The Treaty of Amsterdam was signed on October 2, 1997, and entered into force on May 1, 1999; it made substantial changes to the Treaty on the European Union, which was signed at Maastricht in 1992.
The Amsterdam Treaty meant a greater emphasis on citizenship and the rights of individuals, an attempt to achieve more democracy in the shape of increased powers for the European Parliament, a new title on employment, a Community area of freedom, security and justice, the beginnings of a common foreign and security policy, and the reform of the institutions in the run-up to enlargement.
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Guest - Emir Soler (2009-11-28 00:01:14) :
EU principles are freedom, democracy, and rule of law, human rights and basic freedoms. To Dimitri@ In that case, how come Greece is most corrupt nation in EU?..... Law? Worst country in EU as far as asylum is concern…… .Human rights? More riots in Greece than any other EU country….. Freedom? So Greece should be thrown out of EU. That’s correct
Guest - Orhan Ertuğruloğlu (2009-11-27 11:20:34) :
Turkey is a secular republic. She is a member of the Council Of Europe and party to the İnternational Human Rights Agreements.Whether one likes it or not Turkey is part of Europe for 700 years and since 1878 Congress of Berlin it is a component part of European Ballance of Power System. The Ottoman Empire was a Multi Cultural, Multi-lingual Society of nations based on the humanistic İslamic-Christian and Jewish cultural values. The Ottoman Sultans as historian İlber Ortaylı correctly asserts considered themselves as the natural inheritors of the East Roman Empire. The Christian sailors of the Ottoman Navy were on leave during the Christmas and religious holidays. Turkey on the other hand is an Associate Member of the European Union since 1963. Her full membership to European Union will not bring additional burden on the European taxpayer ' cos Turkish Economy is the 17th biggest economy in the world. According to the Lisbon Agreement if Turkey becomes a full member, she can't bring pressure on the decision making mechanism of the European Union due to her sheer size. Prior to the start of negotiations in 2005 she has fulfilled all the Kopenhagen criterias. Under these circumstances to make discrimination between her and other candidates is hypocricy.
Guest - suleyman (2009-11-27 08:48:58) :
Katie, dear relax, no need to get yourself upset. Your every comment is negative towards the turks. All i said was that there should be level playing field for all canditate countries. My country has decided to apply for membership, now it is up to your lawmakers to determine whether we become members or not. Western banks are in istanbul to make money and not to hand it out as you are suggesting. That is called globilzation and has been around for about 20 years, in case you missed it. By the way if i wrote so negatively about your country in you own press, my comments would not get published. We in turkey are more democratic than what you are propogated.
Guest - hormblower (2009-11-27 03:50:32) :
Turkey has a lot of work before it to get even close to being considered for EU membership. This kind of banter is pointless. Imagine discussing whether a man will get a job at a large corporation when all he's done is put his name on the application. Pointless. For the sake of free speech and relaxed residence restrictions I hope Turkey becomes part of the EU but I get discouraged when Turkey keeps pointing its finger at the rest of the world and at the same time does little to align itself with EU principles. It's mind boggling unless its just a coverup for Turkey's slow rate of capitulation. Lastly, Does the average Turk really want to become part of the EU? The idea that foreigners are trying to take over Turkey is heard regularly. Now Turks want to become enfolded into the very people they drove out? Turkey, this discussion is so much about you and WITH YOURSELF. What others say compared to the voices that need to be confronted in your own head are negligible.
Guest - George (2009-11-27 03:25:06) :
Turkey is not going to join the EU because all 27 EU countries would have to say YES This is highly unlikely because of the sheer size ot Turkey which would be an unbearable burden on all EU tax payers.Also consider the millions of poor Turks wanting to settle as EU citizens across EU capitals. What would this do to the demographics of Christian Europe seeing Mosques everywhere. The fact that a Muslim country wants to join a Christain club only confirms Islams economic inferiority. Why doesnt the OIC which represents 57 Muslim nations do what the EU does?
Guest - haris (2009-11-27 00:47:08) :
@kaya- stop comparing greece with turkey as greece is in the european union due to historical ties where everything that the european union has become started with ancient greek civilization. it may not be the strongest but it is in and will not be displaced. the time turkey meets the criteria becomes a western civilization, allows freedom of the press among many others is the time for it to join. so stop saying it is a more valued member then greece as if this were true the EU would have let them in years ago.
Guest - haris (2009-11-27 00:46:40) :
@kaya- stop comparing greece with turkey as greece is in the european union due to historical ties where everything that the european union has become started with ancient greek civilization. it may not be the strongest but it is in and will not be displaced. the time turkey meets the criteria becomes a western civilization, allows freedom of the press among many others is the time for it to join. so stop saying it is a more valued member then greece as if this were true the EU would have let them in years ago.
Guest - Erden (2009-11-27 00:33:41) :
Christoph its accession talks are frozen because of France and the so called "RoC" get over your self you racist fool, Cyprus joined illegally without the permission from the Vice President and the politically equal Turkish Cypriots, when south cyprus disarms and stops provoking Turkey and when the illegal greek troops get out of Cyprus then we will talk, Turkish Army will forever be in cyprus and if that means no EU membership WHO CARES?
Guest - Basil (2009-11-26 21:51:05) :
Turkey has made a lot of progress when it comes its laws. It has abolished the death penalty. It came out with a new legal code. It has allowed Kurds some cultural access to Kurdish broadcasts, it's allowing for Kurdish road signs and names. It has a vibrant economy. It has worked hard, no matter what anyone says, to resolve the Cyprus issue. However, Turkey needs to open up its ports to the Greek part of Cyprus, recognize Alevis right to worship, grant more openness to the Kurds, and work harder on protecting women's rights. I don't expect Turkey to be a perfect country before it enters or after it does. It has to, however, make more reforms, and it knows that. It has made some. Many countries that are in now had to make many reforms including Hellas, Greece, Espana, Spain. Turkey can't be an exception. And you still can't really criticize politically certain things in a very open way in Turkey, and that has to change. There is still too much state control. That is a problem when you want a democratic system.
Guest - Jean T (2009-11-26 19:48:33) :
Looks like Mr. Bildt is making a little extra on the side. Questions countries opposed to EU membership, he says? Oh, I don't know sir. It might have to do with the fact that Europe wants nothing to do with 70 million muslims who don't care for free speech and human rights. A country that has committed four genocides against four ethnic groups. This isn't Euro-racism, and Euro-fascism, this self-preservation, simple and plain. My goodness, on how many levels (diplomatic/personal/commercial) does one have to be told that they are not accepted. Hell, they aren't even liked. Turks will always be viewed by Europe as the outsider, who insists on spitting on and kicking at the door.
Guest - Mark (2009-11-26 19:16:50) :
I wonder what Mr.Bildt's interests in Turkey are? Business? A holiday home? Family? Maathi Aatisarhi is in the same boat as is Langedijk. At the end of the day Turkeys needs to comply with the Ankara Protocol. Until that day, she will be kept out of the EU. As long as she continues to be stubborn then it is more likely the EU will lose the appetite for expansion and will shut the door. Mr.Bildt's focus should not be finger pointing at other EU states but pushing Turkey to complete all Chapters, implement the Ankara Protocol and resolve the Cyprus dispute and remove all troops and settlers from the island of Cyprus. Knowing as many Swedes as I do, I can reassure Mr.Bildt that his countrymen do not share the same appetitite for Turkey joining the EU as he does.
Guest - Christoph (2009-11-26 18:05:40) :
When Turkey complies completely with the Ankara Protocol and removes it's military from EU member nation Cyprus then their candidacy can go forward. Not before. Mr. Bildt would do far better to push Turkey to meet it's commitments to the EU instead of railing on about alleged 'bias and unfair treatment' on the part of some EU nations. Turkey's accession is frozen because of Turkey's own actions, nobody elses.
Guest - amg (2009-11-26 17:03:12) :
Mr. Bilt is absolutely right. Candidate countires should be judged on democratic institutions, human rights, freedom of the press, religious tolerance, independent judiciary and civilian control of the military. Granted, Turkey has made some progress but not enough. If Turkey wishes to be admitted the road and the criteria are clear. If Turks would rather stay as they are it is clearly they prerogative. As for those who question if those criteria stated by Mr. Bilt are being applied only to Turkey they are simply misinformed. All new comers have negotiated all 33 chapters and the EU made sure that each country met the criteria laid out in a uniform way. For those who wish to objectively judge if Turkey meets those criteria today it is easy to do: For example, on freedom of the press---people are jailed for insulting "Turkishness"; human rights---Kurds cannot use their language to teach their children in formal educational settings; civilian control of the military---the military threatens the democratically elected government with "action" if it diverts from Kemalist principles as interpreted by the military. QED
Guest - Nicos Protopapas (2009-11-26 16:59:28) :
mr BILDT you know the reasons for delaying negociation is not relegion or size.Turkey has a lot of internal and external problems.Democracy within he country.The deep state, turkey invaded Cyprus,partitioned the island brought in settlers greater in numbers than the Turkish cypriots.The Cyprus negociations are not going well because deviates from agreement on a federal state with a strong central government.Turkey was a confederation.
Guest - Kaya (2009-11-26 15:44:41) :
I fully endorse what this man says. @dimitri, could you please give examples of these factors being violated anymore than they are in current member countries, in Turkey? As far as im concerned, better Turkey in the EU than Greece. They only fufilled about a quarter of the EU criteria for this year.
Guest - dimitri (2009-11-26 14:58:21) :
"Article 49 states that the EU is founded on principles of freedom, democracy, rule of law, human rights and basic freedoms. It states that any European country displaying respect for such principles may apply for full membership" DISPLAYS and actually implementing with actions are not the same
Guest - david coors (2009-11-26 14:51:14) :
The following is one of the reasons EU needs Turkiye. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=eu-to-ask-turkey-to-adopt-a-8216more-european-iran-policy8217-2009-11-25 DÖNDÜ SARIIŞIK BRUSSELS – Hürriyet Daily News The European Union welcomes Turkey's stabilizing role in the Middle East but feels uneasy with its Iran policy, according to diplomats in Brussels. The 27-member bloc will likely press Turkey to adjust its policy toward Iran with that of the EU policy during the Turkey-EU Troika meeting in Istanbul. ...
Guest - Vincent (2009-11-26 14:44:08) :
Katie - what you are writing is ignorant (with all due respect). The Turkish market is very attractive for Foreign companies. Size, growth, wealth (yes), consumers who are not indebted - this is the total opposite of Europe at the moment (and for the foreseeable future). Turkey has already boycotted French companies because of Sarkozy's stance... and they, in turn, have pressured him (he is less outspoken now) As far as banks go - You can not be serious about saying Western Banks are a strong point for the EU. This sector is a disaster (and I work in a bank). It is the EU Achille's heel. Latvia, Hungary are practically Bankrupt. Greece, Portugal, Ireland would be in the same position if they did not have the Euro. Dexia, Fortis, Lloyd's, RBS, Northern Rock, Hypo real estate, West LB now.... Contrast it with the situation in Turkey. There is a lot of progress to be made in Turkey on several fronts, but your line of argumentation is completely wrong.
Guest - Verity (2009-11-26 12:35:31) :
EU has 27 members. Every country tells onother story about the membership of turkey. EU is a choir without a choirmaster or an orchestra without a conductor.
Guest - david coors (2009-11-26 11:51:13) :
Europeans claim that thet went through an era of enlightenment during which they educated themselves to be free from hatred, greed and jealousy against fellow human being unconditionally regardless of religion, culture, language, race, nationality, geography, etc. After that they fought many, many wars against each other, killed hundred of millions people of their own. They colonized countries and peoples in Africa, Asia, Australia, and other places, to oppress and plunder, and killed hundreds of millions of people. I do not believe a word they say about how "civilized" they are. All the evidence show they are totally un-civilized. They still discriminate against people because of religion, culture, language, race, nationality, geography, etc. Their "enlightenment" process and education systems failed big time. Therefore Turkiye would be much better off without EU membership. Why risk everything you have!!!
Guest - Mark (2009-11-26 11:40:56) :
Unfortunately, Mr.Bildt is taking too simplistic approach to enlargement. Turkey cannot be compared to the other countries that were taken in. Turkey is a large land mass, 97% of which is in Asia. It has a population of over 70 million and is culturally very different to all other members that joined in the last wave. Whether religion is an issue or not, the reality is the EU has been built up with values that are of a Christian heritage. Turkey has numerous problems with her neighbours. Armenia, Cyprus, Greece and Syria all have terrible relations with Turkey. Turkey is also a poor country. Unfortunately when EU politicians visit Turkey they only see the back of limousins and get taken to the best hotels and entertainment quarters in Istanbul. The reality of Turkey is very different. Travel around it, whilst it is a great country it has very little in common with the EU.
Guest - Katie (2009-11-26 11:21:28) :
" let them chase us to join." Suleyman, why should they ever chase Turkey , what will Turkey bring to the EU table they don't already give ? Wake up Turkey, you already trade with the EU, take a look around Istanbul & see the Western banks there, you need the West far more than they need you. I sincerely hope you never get in as it would be a one sided relationship where we give & you take. This is so obvious only the ignorant in Brussels would miss the fact.
Guest - suleyman (2009-11-26 11:05:20) :
This man is very correct. Any nation other than the western europeans all faced some sort controversy prior to joining, and they were not subjected to public opinion. The eu rushed membership to countries, that were in far worse state than the turkish application. There economies nor there human rights were ever considered. Wake up turkiye, lets not lower ourselves to get membership, let them chase us to join.
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