INTERNATIONAL > Dogfights over Aegean hit by Greek economic crisis

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Dogfights between Turkish and Greek aircrafts over the Aegean Sea have significantly decreased due to the economic crisis Athens is struggling with, daily Hürriyet has reported, citing data from General Staff.

The number has decreased from 34 to nine, when January data is compared with last year. The report said Greek F-16 jets engaged Turkish F-16s for a total of 61 minutes in January 2012, which had decreased to 14 minutes in January 2013.

The longest interference of the Greek side this year was measured on Jan. 17, when Greek aircrafts engaged Turkish jets for 12 minutes over the island of Chios.

Greek media reported that each hour of a dogfight costs 11,000 euros, and “expensive” dogfights are seen as being among the causes of the current economic crisis.


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john albay

2/2/2013 6:50:19 PM

To all the greek posters,are you all out of your minds to want to start a war,which you can not win? The only winners in a war are the companies will supply military hardware! It is good that the greeks are not playing their silly games. As for the remark about the usa,which side do you rally think they will chose? the greeks with their mini military or Turkey which after the USA is the second largest NATO military.@stratos,what would happen if Turkey had a 12 mile territoral waters,?Think!!

mike alexander

2/2/2013 12:33:23 AM

Did you realy mean the following: "When Greek aircrafts engaged Turkish jets for 12 minutes over the island of Chios" ? Well my frineds do not complain if 1996 happens again, and the Greeks call you bullies of the E, MED once more ! My Government (USA) observes and will CHOOSE THE RIGHT SIDE with the EU countries when the time comes ! I just hope that Turkey will start behaving like a civilized country, for the shake of humanity. Greece is a Western country !


2/1/2013 7:07:27 PM

@ Dim Souk, TheTurks should pay for the fuel for Greek jets, since the Turkish Air Force pilots missed playing with Greek pilots lately :D The reality is that the Turkish Air Force is still flying the entire International Air Space of the Aegean, but not much Greeks joining our pilots. Explain me why you can't fire the missiles? Because the Turkish Armed Forces will teach you the most valuable lesson of your life. Needs more than these words to fire those, you goofy. Less words more deeds.

Stratos T.

2/1/2013 6:55:21 PM

@Murat to help you your put your thoughts in the right order, and to facilitate this conversation let me introduce some definitions for you. The definition of the "right" of someone means that this somene does not have to ask permission from someone else to exert it. When someone's right is suppressed or threatened (like in the case of Turkey with the Casus Belli) then this is called oppression, tyrany or plain bullying. So, which one of the above defines Turkey's stance on this?

mara mcglothin

2/1/2013 6:23:22 PM

I agree BARIS but don't hold your breath.

Stratos T.

2/1/2013 6:21:05 PM

@Murat. Everyone that has signed UNCLOS has the right to extend to 12 miles. The Law of the Sea Convention defines the rights & responsibilities of nations in their use of the world's oceans. Its the right of the coastal nation, same as Turkey has done in the Black sea (even though it has not signed the treaty). By all means Turkey can extend its teritorial waters to 12 miles & in the case of overlaping areas the middle line rule is taken into consideration. Turkey's excuse? Casus beli instead.


2/1/2013 5:14:33 PM

Even though I strongly agree with Baris on this one, I feel compelled in stating that Turkey is the perpetrator as well as the provocateur in this unwarranted conflict which is a danger to civil aviation, to say the least. Therefore, Greece must seek legal intervention by international binding arbitration sources.Why is it that we do not read reasonable feedback from most, not all, Turkish contributors? Regards


2/1/2013 4:13:43 PM

So funny. Greeks have a right to extend to 12 miles? Since when it is a right? If Turks have not signed any such treaty, it is obviously not a right or law. Hmm, what if Turkey decides it is a right for them too! You folks always seem to be confused about one thing or another.


2/1/2013 4:10:21 PM

You can't even tell the difference between air traffic control boundaries and national territories. Islands did not just "become" Greek, they were literally stolen and confiscated whenTurks were down on their knees and hen ethnically cleansed. Jets do not fly over Greek properties. If the islands are armed against international treaties, then Turks have a case and even a reason to do what Israel did to Syrians maybe. The fact that they have not speaks volumes.

dim souk

2/1/2013 4:03:20 PM

Fuels are not the problem! The problem is that after shoot down of RF4 from Syrians the Turkish Air Force stop fly over Aegean and Mediterranean sea . With whom we will practice in dogfights and whom will target with our Patriot,S-300,Tor M1,OSA,Crotalle etc? Pitty!
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